| 19:54:29 |
kristina |
Hi folks. Welcome. I am just finishing up dinner. Back in 5 minutes. Do feel free to suggest topics. I will fill you in on my ideas soon. |
| 19:54:56 |
kristina |
Carol, if you wish, i can talk about your Saliva Testing Results that came in. |
| 19:55:03 |
Carol45 |
GREAT - I am anxiously awaiting them. |
| 19:55:29 |
Carol45 |
Hi Denise |
| 19:56:59 |
Denise |
I am doing much better now that I am working the Kristina and the Weston A. Price diet |
| 19:57:26 |
Carol45 |
Hi Heidi and Dave. |
| 19:58:19 |
Carol45 |
I didn't realize how much better I was doing, until I went off for a few days. After two days I felt lousy. |
| 19:58:36 |
bhtimm |
I am on the 5-day fast right now |
| 19:58:41 |
Dave |
Any topics of special interest tonight? |
| 19:59:01 |
kristina |
So, Carol, you are okay if others read, too? |
| 19:59:13 |
kristina |
Hello all. |
| 19:59:20 |
Carol45 |
Absolutely. We're all here to help one another. |
| 19:59:50 |
kristina |
Denise, would you be willing to share the details of how you are doing better and what you are doing specifically? |
| 20:00:13 |
kristina |
How is the fast coming along, Heidi? Details. |
| 20:00:14 |
Denise |
Sure, |
| 20:00:31 |
Carol45 |
The hardest part of the collection was rinsing my mouth with 'very cold water'. My teeth are sensative. :o |
| 20:00:39 |
bhtimm |
I have a concern...when I picked up the lavender soap I noticed it had hemp oil in it...I have to do drug screens |
| 20:01:03 |
bhtimm |
I am producing ketones...tested myself an hour ago with some strips I had left over from my failed-Atkins diet |
| 20:01:13 |
Carol45 |
I use lavender oil on occasion. |
| 20:01:18 |
kristina |
Carol, do you floss at least one time daily? How do you brush? |
| 20:01:54 |
Denise |
I have had chronic constipation for years and now that I am eating healthy fats and eliminating grains (except for soaked grains, I am going without any help and am feeling so much better |
| 20:01:59 |
Carol45 |
I only have a couple lower teeth to hold my partial - but they let me know about it!! |
| 20:03:27 |
Carol45 |
Billy, looks like you logged in without problems tonight. |
| 20:03:49 |
Denise |
I used to have to take enemas and use cascara sagrada and it was still not normalizing me, but I went off the vegetarian diet and back to good meats and fat etc and I can't believe the difference |
| 20:04:01 |
Dave |
Looks like a nice big turnout. |
| 20:04:12 |
billythekid |
Things have been going great all day. I woke up AGAIN this morning! |
| 20:04:15 |
kristina |
That is an interesting question, Heidi. I don't imagine that would show up in a drug screening test, but let's look into that. The oils is soaps are saponified but you can trade it in for one of the goat's milk soaps. |
| 20:04:40 |
Denise |
I am also devouring any information I can and the weston a price website is packed, also I read Kristina's book and have learned so much! |
| 20:04:54 |
bhtimm |
i told my board monitor about that, so no worry...but I'll let you know. On cascara, I was telling Kristina I got sick off it! |
| 20:05:11 |
kristina |
That is great, Billy! |
| 20:05:36 |
Carol45 |
Denise, I got the Price 'cookbook' and it too is packed with information. |
| 20:05:40 |
kristina |
Free Cortisol Rhythm |
| 20:06:16 |
Denise |
Yes I did get it also and am making yogurt, and soaking my oats and other things, its packed |
| 20:06:36 |
kristina |
oh, a bit of background: I am now working with saliva testing, which I find to be a super tool to optimize one's health with. I am now going to post Carol's results: |
| 20:08:19 |
kristina |
7-8am-15 Normal, 11-12pm- 8 Normal, 04:00 - 05:00 PM 1 Depressed |
| 20:08:29 |
kristina |
11:00 - Midnight 3 Normal 1-4 nM |
| 20:08:51 |
kristina |
Low values are sign of adrenal deterioration. |
| 20:08:55 |
Dave |
K, any word on when the new OHN site will debut? |
| 20:09:07 |
LoneEagle |
Any ideas on what to take if one is all ready taking Miralax and senna and still moving slow? The cause of my slow system is due to heavy medication use |
| 20:09:09 |
kristina |
I know that this doesn't surprise you, Carol. |
| 20:09:25 |
bhtimm |
My values the second time I did it were a normal curve but low-normal noon, eve and night values |
| 20:09:33 |
bhtimm |
the first time I did it was a disaster |
| 20:09:50 |
Carol45 |
I'm 'depressed' about the 'normal'. *) |
| 20:09:53 |
kristina |
The new site is most likely going to make its debut within this next week. |
| 20:10:01 |
bhtimm |
it correlates well with my energy level which drops off about late morning |
| 20:10:09 |
kristina |
There is lots to work with using these results. |
| 20:10:14 |
Denise |
I just heard that Miralax should not be taken longterm, that it is a plastic, maybe Kristina could weigh in on this |
| 20:10:35 |
bhtimm |
one thing that really helped me was licorice tea -- for giving the adrenals a rest. |
| 20:10:46 |
bhtimm |
Esp. helpful in late morning or early / late PM. |
| 20:10:49 |
Carol45 |
Ok = I'm ready to get started. Afternoons are my absolute worst. |
| 20:11:21 |
bhtimm |
I can comment on Miralax - it is a polyethylene glycol - actually related to antifreeze |
| 20:11:27 |
kristina |
Post-prandial insulin elevation comes from high carbohydrate intake, or hyperinsulinic state usually associated with chronic stress and increased cortisol production. |
| 20:11:29 |
kristina |
Post-prandial 21 Elevated Optimal: 5-20 uIU/mL |
| 20:11:50 |
kristina |
Fasting Insulin- 13 Hyperinsulinic Normal: 3-12 uIU/mL |
| 20:11:52 |
bhtimm |
how are those insulins drawn? Or are they saliva too? |
| 20:12:20 |
billythekid |
I got some results from my annual physical last week. The Doctor said my good cholesterol was good, but my bad cholesterol was bad. Should I treat that with more good enemas? |
| 20:12:24 |
kristina |
Carol, this is a key reason why following the diet in my book helps you so much, it keeps your blood sugar stable. |
| 20:12:27 |
Carol45 |
Chronic stress is a definite. |
| 20:12:36 |
kristina |
Eating often is one of your best ways to stay healthy. |
| 20:13:04 |
bhtimm |
http://www.fastingconnection.com/ketosis-explained-new.html |
| 20:13:27 |
bhtimm |
this is why my ketones in urine were encouraging - indicates near-zilch insulin levels |
| 20:13:39 |
Carol45 |
Every three hours, with kefir (goat's milk) for two of the meals keeps me going just fine. |
| 20:13:51 |
kristina |
LoneEagle-do you eat LOTS of fruits and vegetables, along with lots of healthy fats and meats? I would target the diet first. Also, how often do you take enemas? |
| 20:14:00 |
bhtimm |
I am starting to get those cravings you describe in the book, Kristina :) you know the ones you're supposed to resist |
| 20:14:26 |
kristina |
Thanks, Heidi and Denise |
| 20:14:33 |
bhtimm |
I am doing so well eating five-six small meals per day rather than join the crowd at lunch, I do my meals on my own time at work |
| 20:14:36 |
kristina |
Yes, we use saliva |
| 20:14:53 |
Carol45 |
LoneEagle, did you get Kristina's question = it was when you dropped out for a minute. |
| 20:14:55 |
bhtimm |
on actual lunch hour I take a walk on the treadmill in our onsite gym |
| 20:15:08 |
LoneEagle |
Ok if Miralax is bad which would be better senna or enemas? |
| 20:15:14 |
Denise |
So should I stay away from even soaked grains and sprouted bread at this time with my problems? |
| 20:15:14 |
Dave |
Like Billy, had physical recently and sugar a bit high. Advice orally or enema-ly? |
| 20:15:50 |
kristina |
Yes, the cravings, those can be tough. What are you feeling like would be excellent to eat just about now? |
| 20:16:04 |
LoneEagle |
No I did not |
| 20:16:05 |
bhtimm |
in the pharmaceutical world there are many olderfolk who are on the Miralax (now it's called "Glycolax") daily indefinitely - not good |
| 20:16:17 |
LoneEagle |
What was the Q? |
| 20:16:40 |
bhtimm |
hmmm...not pizza as you suggested...I stopped at Whole Foods and got my raw cheese, pasture-fed yogurt and free-range eggs. |
| 20:16:47 |
bhtimm |
That would be good! |
| 20:17:05 |
kristina |
I would recommend cascara sagrada over senna but would need to know more about other factors in your lifestyle before I answered enemas or herbal laxative. Do you currently use enemas? If so, how do they work? What do you eat? How do you feel otherwise? |
| 20:17:08 |
bhtimm |
I would say with what I know now, the enemas over senna |
| 20:17:22 |
bhtimm |
senna is a stimulant like Dulcolax |
| 20:18:06 |
Denise |
Are most of you now not eating any grains to keep your blood sugar in check? |
| 20:18:11 |
Carol45 |
LoneEagle, Q about your diet - fruits, vegs, etc. |
| 20:18:34 |
kristina |
Also, I missed a question about cholesterol that is now gone, can you please ask again. |
| 20:18:40 |
bhtimm |
Kristina, how do you weigh in on Dr. Mercola's "protein-type" vs. "carb-type"? |
| 20:19:02 |
Denise |
I wondered that also |
| 20:19:12 |
LoneEagle |
I do not use enemas at this time I eat kinda so so I feel ok for the most part but I am not very active due to a back problem |
| 20:19:13 |
bhtimm |
He says for juicing protein types can only have the following juiced: spinach, asparagus, string beans, cauliflower, and there was something else I can't remember. A very limited list. |
| 20:19:22 |
kristina |
Michael, My family is doing very well. Thanks. My husband is looking for a job as a nurse. We have sold all of our farm related stuff and are looking to sell our beautiful farm. Rayna turns 6 next week. |
| 20:19:37 |
bhtimm |
Your husband is an RN? |
| 20:20:05 |
bhtimm |
I took the quiz in the Metabolic type book and I be much closer to Protein than Carb |
| 20:21:18 |
bhtimm |
sorry got kicked off |
| 20:21:19 |
Denise |
I am sorry to hear about your farm, I am sure that was a hard decision, but it had to be a struggle handling a farm and your job and children, |
| 20:21:21 |
billythekid |
I stated that my good cholesterol was good, but my bad cholesterol was bad. Should I treat that with more good enemas.? |
| 20:21:22 |
Carol45 |
Kristina, I have cut out most breads. two or three times a week I do give in to my cravings and have something whole wheat. should I cut them out entirely? |
| 20:21:32 |
kristina |
Dr. Mercola is using a version of Metabolic Typing. All people needs lots of protein, but what type of protein can vary between red meat versus more fish or eggs. Some people need more fruits and vegetables whereas others need to stick with mostly meats and fats and raw dairy. Metabolic Typing is much more comprehensive than Mercola's types. |
| 20:21:38 |
bhtimm |
I'm interested in the cholesterol question too |
| 20:22:23 |
kristina |
Dave, eat protein with EVERY meal, eat every 2-3 hours, limit grains and sugars, add coconut oil to your diet. Might you do these things? |
| 20:22:33 |
Carol45 |
Also what types of supplements should I be taking? |
| 20:22:49 |
Dave |
I could give it a try, for ure. |
| 20:22:51 |
bhtimm |
I read The Cholesterol Myth in the sauna - does that mean cholesterol is not correlated with anything, that it couldn't function as a barometer? I hope not because my HDL is the best it's ever been at 74! |
| 20:22:53 |
kristina |
Denise, yes, stay away from grains for the next 3 months. |
| 20:23:11 |
Denise |
Okay |
| 20:23:20 |
bhtimm |
i've struggled getting it out of the 40's |
| 20:23:30 |
kristina |
Heidi, try to stick with liquids but eggs are fine, especially raw eggs. I am sure a bit of cheese would be just fine, too. |
| 20:23:50 |
bhtimm |
that's fine, I only have one more day :) |
| 20:24:07 |
kristina |
Yes, too much. It was awesome, but it degraded the quality of our life in other ways given that 3 of our kids still lived in Madison. |
| 20:24:20 |
kristina |
I loved it. It was crazy. |
| 20:24:48 |
Dave |
Glad I got to see it. |
| 20:24:58 |
Carol45 |
I hope you can still get a supply of goat milk. |
| 20:25:30 |
bhtimm |
Whole Foods sells raw goat cheese - DELICIOUS |
| 20:25:52 |
kristina |
No, high cholesterol isn't an indication of the need for cholesterol lowering drugs. Cholesterol need not be low in order to be healthy. What did you think of the book as a scientist yourself? |
| 20:26:05 |
bhtimm |
long time ago my husband's farm used to have 2 goats, both billys though |
| 20:26:22 |
billythekid |
My HDL was 46, but my LDL was 143.6. Overall cholesterol was 201. |
| 20:26:26 |
kristina |
Carol, we will talk about supplements fully over the phone. And, I will keep posting your results: |
| 20:26:47 |
kristina |
A depressed mucosal SIgA may be attributed to one or more of the following reasons: 1- Excessive chronic cortisol output causes a reduction in the number of SIgA producing immunocytes. Appropriate restorative treatments have been shown to produce incremental improvements in SIgA. 2- Excessive sympathetic activity causes inhibition of SIgA release from the mucosal immunocytes. 3- Chronic deficits in cortisol and/or DHEA levels. 4- Possible systemic deficit in capacity to produce IgA - an inherited problem. Rule out possibility with a serum IgA test. A normal finding rules out this possibility. |
| 20:26:47 |
bhtimm |
if I remember correctly HDL functions as an antioxidant and LDL represents it AFTER it's been oxidized. Hence the HDL being the so-called "good" |
| 20:27:15 |
kristina |
Total Salivary SIgA 13 Depressed Normal: 25-60 mg/dl |
| 20:27:32 |
bhtimm |
my HDL 74 LDL 116 total chol 195 and triglycerides ONLY 27! |
| 20:27:36 |
kristina |
Raw cow's milk now |
| 20:27:55 |
bhtimm |
I do know that there is a correlation between triglycerides and insulin sensitivity |
| 20:28:30 |
kristina |
Carol: Gliadin-Negative |
| 20:28:31 |
kristina |
Gliadins are polypeptides found in wheat, rye, oat, barley, and other grain glutens, and are toxic to the intestinal mucosa in susceptible individuals. Healthy adults and children may have a positive antigliadin test because of subclinical gliadin intolerance. |
| 20:28:45 |
Denise |
I had the saliva test and Kristina is working with me to get me back to health and will let you all know how the supplements are helping me when I receive them and take them for a while |
| 20:28:57 |
bhtimm |
Kristina, I overheard you talking to a client about vitamin D. Mine is borderline-low. An MD (dr. selfridge, complementary medicine at GHC) suggested I take 3000 IU/ day and have it retested in 4-6 weeks. What do you think? Should I use cod liver oil? |
| 20:29:18 |
bhtimm |
she suggested a straight D3, a couple brands available at Comm. Pharmacy |
| 20:29:59 |
Carol45 |
So I can have a piece of rye toast on Sunday mornings? |
| 20:30:19 |
LoneEagle |
Ok so if I quit taking the miralax and started taking enemas would you suggest one two or more a day. If I do not take and medications for my slow system I move every three days |
| 20:30:35 |
kristina |
Hemp oil is an excellent choice to make into soap because of its high Essential Fatty Acid (EFA) content. Adding hemp to our soap has improved the moisturizing and afterfeel dramatically. The lather now is smoother, milder and creamier. In late July, Canadian Customs stopped a shipment of our soaps at the border. The soaps could not enter because of their hemp oil content. Not only is all of the hemp oil we use certified and compliant with Canadian regulations, with the THC content at less than 10 parts per million*, but we actually use oil purchased in Canada in the first place! Health Canada is not interested in the fact that we can document that the hemp oil that goes into the soap is certified Canadian compliant; they only want to see the finished product tested. |
| 20:31:15 |
michael b |
kristina, i have watched both of your movies, the 2nd one i have questions about, but i will write a letter with those questions, i can only start to imagine how busy you are, you can read it when and if you have time? |
| 20:31:27 |
bhtimm |
Oh, thank you so much for that info Kristina! |
| 20:32:06 |
Lisa |
Hi everyone! I'm glad at least I can make it the last half hour! I had a rehearsal tonight for Sunday's recital! |
| 20:32:19 |
LoneEagle |
Hi Lisa |
| 20:32:28 |
Denise |
Hi Lisa |
| 20:32:39 |
bhtimm |
Hi Lisa |
| 20:32:53 |
Dave |
Ditto |
| 20:32:53 |
Lisa |
Good group here tonight! |
| 20:33:11 |
Denise |
Lone Eagle are you on the diet in Kristina's book, it may really help you. I had the worst system and now I am good. |
| 20:33:14 |
kristina |
Billy, might you set up a consult. There are many factors to consider and I want to make sure that we cover them all. The best and most simple change to make is with the diet. Have you read my book? Might you follow the 35-day plan laid out in it? |
| 20:33:18 |
Carol45 |
Good evening Lisa, it's a busy night. We've got questions of all kinds. |
| 20:33:25 |
Lisa |
Is there a topic tonight? |
| 20:33:45 |
kristina |
It would be fine to ask it now? |
| 20:33:49 |
kristina |
Hi Lisa |
| 20:34:04 |
Lisa |
Hi Kris! |
| 20:34:05 |
kristina |
I lost the Vitamin D question, sorry. Please ask again. |
| 20:34:16 |
LoneEagle |
No I am not sounds like a good place to start if you think it will help |
| 20:34:30 |
Denise |
Absolutely! |
| 20:34:49 |
Carol45 |
Kristina has been going over my saliva test results. there is loads of information. |
| 20:34:53 |
kristina |
I LOVE IT! I just wish the text wouldn't disappear so quickly! |
| 20:35:03 |
bhtimm |
I had my 25-OH D3 checked and it was borderline low. So Dr. Selfridge from complementary med at GHC suggested I take 3000 IU/day and retest in 4-6 wks. I did purchase a cod liver oil product, but she suggested straight D3. |
| 20:35:04 |
kristina |
Maybe I can change that for next time. |
| 20:35:22 |
kristina |
Yes, it will help! What do you think, Heidi, Carol and Denise??? |
| 20:35:42 |
bhtimm |
think about what?!? |
| 20:35:44 |
billythekid |
Who is Lisa?:) |
| 20:35:56 |
Denise |
Go to the Weston A. Price website also it is packed with info |
| 20:36:09 |
kristina |
Why test for insulin? Insulin activity is affected by the stress and cortisol responses. Chronic stress with cortisol elevation antagonizes insulin, and may cause functional insulin resistance. Furthermore, chronic hypercortisol causes hyperinsulin responses to carbohydrate intake. Chronic insulin resistance and overproduction lead to pancreatic exhaustion. |
| 20:36:10 |
Lisa |
Lisa is Waterwoman! |
| 20:36:14 |
Denise |
and my system was so bad, I had to do something to go |
| 20:37:10 |
kristina |
Yes, we have straight D3 at the office. I would recommend 10,000 throughout the winter. Our D3 is from Biotics Research. |
| 20:37:32 |
bhtimm |
10000 IU Daily?! |
| 20:37:35 |
bhtimm |
wow |
| 20:37:35 |
kristina |
Who tested your D3? How did you think to test it? How was it tested? |
| 20:37:44 |
Denise |
I was eating high fiber because I thought it was good for me and am finding out that it was misinformation and was infact hurting me. Try the raw milk and lacto fermented veggies, and make beet kvass, I can't stress this enough, it really did help me. |
| 20:37:55 |
bhtimm |
I had seen Dr. Selfridge in March of this year. She suggested getting it tested in Nov. |
| 20:38:14 |
LoneEagle |
I would use Biscoplax waited 2 HR then had to use a second one sometimes |
| 20:38:15 |
bhtimm |
at first my primary MD drew the wrong one - the 1,25 |
| 20:38:16 |
Denise |
Is that 10,000 per day of D3? |
| 20:38:19 |
kristina |
Think about if the dietary changes you have all been working through will help to optimize one's health and cholesterol levels... |
| 20:38:40 |
bhtimm |
25-OH is the one that assesses nutritional status |
| 20:39:02 |
kristina |
Yes, per day. |
| 20:39:18 |
kristina |
It is a trick to keep up with this lively chat!!! |
| 20:39:19 |
LoneEagle |
Which is the name of the book Denise? |
| 20:39:35 |
Denise |
Of course the first thing to do is listen to what Kristina has to say because she really does her research and has a lot of experience |
| 20:39:53 |
Denise |
The book is Ten Days to Optimal Health |
| 20:40:18 |
kristina |
Vitamin D is a steroid hormone precursor that has recently been found to play a role in a wide variety of diseases. Current research indicates vitamin D deficiency plays a role in causing seventeen varieties of cancer as well as heart disease, stroke, hypertension, autoimmune diseases, diabetes, depression, chronic pain, osteoarthritis, osteoporosis, muscle weakness, muscle wasting, birth defects, and periodontal disease. |
| 20:40:22 |
LoneEagle |
Ok that's what I thought it would be but wanted to make sure |
| 20:40:28 |
Denise |
Also Wise Traditions by Sally Fallon for the great recepies |
| 20:41:02 |
kristina |
If you totally avoid the sun, recent research indicates you need about 4,000 units of vitamin D a day. Which means you can't get enough vitamin D from milk (unless you drink 40 glasses a day) or from a multivitamin (unless you take about 10 tablets a day), neither of which is recommended. |
| 20:41:15 |
kristina |
Most of us make about 20,000 units of vitamin D after about 20 minutes of summer sun. This is about 100 times more vitamin D than the government says you need every day. |
| 20:41:23 |
LoneEagle |
Denise do you use emenas also or just the diet? |
| 20:41:26 |
kristina |
the only way to be sure you have adequate levels of vitamin D in your blood is to regularly go into the sun, use a sun bed (avoiding sunburn), or have your physician administer a 25‑-hydroxy vitamin D test. Optimal levels are around 50 ng/mL (125 nM/L). |
| 20:41:48 |
Denise |
So can I also take more than 2000 per day with the test results you saw from me |
| 20:41:51 |
bhtimm |
FYI my levels are about half the optimal |
| 20:41:55 |
bhtimm |
22 ng/ml |
| 20:41:59 |
bhtimm |
a little less than half |
| 20:42:05 |
LoneEagle |
How much time in the sun bed? |
| 20:42:36 |
bhtimm |
Dr. Selfridge did not recommend the sunbeds for this reason: EMF |
| 20:42:39 |
Denise |
Yes LoneEagle, I did do the enemas, but now I am so normal, I don't need them. I am 52 and I was all messed up. But I feel so much better now. |
| 20:42:47 |
bhtimm |
electromagnetic frequencies |
| 20:43:01 |
bhtimm |
Dr. Mercola concurs with that |
| 20:43:17 |
LoneEagle |
Ok thanks |
| 20:43:56 |
Denise |
Sure thing. Good Luck |
| 20:44:00 |
bhtimm |
wow that's a potent product - alternatively can you rub it on your skin? |
| 20:44:02 |
Lisa |
I sure don't need a sun bed here in Texas! We have beautiful winters here most of the time. What a beautiful sunny day we had here today! But no, I won't rub it in. LOL! |
| 20:44:04 |
kristina |
How much time in the sunbeds depends on how tan you already are, right, just like being in the sun. I use them for 10 minutes, two times weekly. |
| 20:44:34 |
kristina |
No, if you can be outside all year around you won't need the sunbed, but if you can't you will need to figure other ways to keep your Vitamin D levels up. |
| 20:44:43 |
kristina |
Yes, you can rub it on your skin |
| 20:44:47 |
bhtimm |
I don't think she said you COULDN'T use beds, just that she felt there was that risk, and certainly not as good as old-fashioned sun. Woe to us though, we live in Wisconsin! |
| 20:45:06 |
Lisa |
Funny Kris! |
| 20:45:06 |
LoneEagle |
Ok is sun bed time equal to sunshine time? |
| 20:45:34 |
bhtimm |
Kristina do you know what your D levels are? |
| 20:45:43 |
Denise |
What is better ingesting vitamin D or putting it on your skin? |
| 20:46:11 |
bhtimm |
so, raw milk does have some NATURAL vitamin D? |
| 20:46:39 |
Carol45 |
I got booted out - and then this contraption froze up. Sure hope this gets printed up. I know I missed a lot. |
| 20:46:43 |
kristina |
No, you spend less time in a sunbed. I would recommend being outside as often as you can and tanning up to one hour per day. |
| 20:47:02 |
kristina |
No, I do not know what my Vitamin D levels are, mostly because I have no health insurance |
| 20:47:03 |
bhtimm |
I know the pasteurized has artificially added--and a correction, I believe your book (and Mercola's) says D2, it is D3 as per the label (I don't have any in my house, just noticed as I was walking in the store to check) |
| 20:47:08 |
kristina |
Ingesting |
| 20:47:25 |
kristina |
Yes, raw milk is good for Vitamin D |
| 20:47:38 |
Denise |
Thanks |
| 20:47:47 |
kristina |
Yes, all chats will be on the new site but not when it is first launched over this next week. |
| 20:48:04 |
bhtimm |
I will be the "guest celebrity"! |
| 20:48:07 |
LoneEagle |
Ok another Q what gets rid of gas besides a fast moving system |
| 20:48:08 |
bhtimm |
LOL |
| 20:48:15 |
Denise |
Looking forward to seeing the past few chats they are packed with information |
| 20:48:32 |
Carol45 |
Me too, as well as the new site! |
| 20:48:35 |
kristina |
Cutting out the food that is causing the gas, mostly like a grain product. What is your diet, LoneEagle? |
| 20:48:35 |
bhtimm |
one thing we tell patients in the hospital is walk around |
| 20:48:40 |
bhtimm |
for ridding gas |
| 20:48:45 |
Dave |
Sources tell me the new site will be pretty spiffy. |
| 20:48:49 |
kristina |
Also, you might find that you would benefit from taking some food enzymes. |
| 20:49:03 |
kristina |
Yes, you will be Heidi! |
| 20:49:12 |
bhtimm |
:) |
| 20:49:13 |
Denise |
Since I changed my diet I have almost eliminated my gas |
| 20:49:18 |
LoneEagle |
To much bread products for starters |
| 20:49:24 |
Lisa |
Is KJ still the webmaster? |
| 20:49:37 |
Carol45 |
I have had to eliminate all nightshade veggies. That has helped the gas. But, boy when I get a green pepper! |
| 20:49:43 |
kristina |
Yes, too much bread:( |
| 20:49:50 |
bhtimm |
I love bell peppers |
| 20:50:07 |
kristina |
Yes, KJ is still with me. |
| 20:50:07 |
bhtimm |
esp. the colored varieties, and more nutritious, too |
| 20:50:19 |
bhtimm |
who's KJ? |
| 20:50:27 |
LoneEagle |
I love it but I was brought up on a diet high in breads and red meat |
| 20:50:32 |
Denise |
Kristina can you now do soaked grains, now that you are healthy? |
| 20:50:34 |
LoneEagle |
high |
| 20:50:57 |
bhtimm |
I am drinking raw milk now and it's making me crave cornflakes now :( |
| 20:51:03 |
LoneEagle |
Um roasted bell peppers are great |
| 20:51:34 |
kristina |
Next Live Chat, Wednesday, January 9th at 7 p.m., CST. I do so appreciate all of you for being a part of tonight's Live Chat. I would love to hear from some of you, What you are looking forward to in this coming month as we all say good-bye! |
| 20:51:37 |
Denise |
Me too LoneEagle, but you will not miss it if you are eating more fats and protein and fermented foods |
| 20:51:56 |
bhtimm |
I am curious if you can tell the difference btwn. the Holstein and Jersey milk at that Amish farm. Say you let it sit...can you notice the Jersey has more cream rise to the top? |
| 20:51:58 |
LoneEagle |
I probably should stop eating cereal every morning right? |
| 20:52:08 |
kristina |
LoneEagle-you might be surprised how much you like a healthier diet, you might find yourself eating lots of red meat. |
| 20:52:34 |
kristina |
NO, I do not eat any grains. |
| 20:52:39 |
bhtimm |
I can tell you Lone I don't get constipated on raw dairy the way I do on pasteurized |
| 20:52:42 |
Carol45 |
My 10 day diet has lasted over a year - with a few lapses! What a difference. |
| 20:53:05 |
kristina |
Yes, there would be a bit more cream with the Jersey milk. |
| 20:53:07 |
Denise |
Wow! Good for you! |
| 20:53:18 |
bhtimm |
I will confess and say I ate a Haagen-Daz the night before I started my fast-but a normal amount, not the whole pint! |
| 20:53:18 |
kristina |
yes, what else might you like to eat for breakfast. |
| 20:53:19 |
LoneEagle |
Ok what places can you find raw dairy |
| 20:53:22 |
billythekid |
I am looking forward to and hope everyone here has a Merry Christmas and a Healthy New Year!! |
| 20:53:39 |
bhtimm |
that is my "lapse" - do I need to take a white keytag, Kristina? |
| 20:53:45 |
LoneEagle |
Sausage yogurt |
| 20:53:51 |
bhtimm |
but otherwise I have done great |
| 20:53:55 |
kristina |
I am taking a trip to Mexico and Belize with my mom, my son and my daughter for 12 days over the Winter School break. I am very much looking forward to it. |
| 20:54:11 |
bhtimm |
I'm glad you get to go! |
| 20:54:13 |
LoneEagle |
eggs |
| 20:54:14 |
kristina |
Might you also eat an orange or another type of fruit with the sausage and yogurt? |
| 20:54:24 |
Dave |
Don't drink the water! |
| 20:54:29 |
LoneEagle |
Yes i like citrus |
| 20:54:31 |
Denise |
have a great trip! |
| 20:54:38 |
Carol45 |
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night. |
| 20:54:44 |
kristina |
Yummy...ice cream....you might learn to make your own.... |
| 20:54:50 |
Lisa |
Most of Europe has raw dairy. Too bad it's not common here!! |
| 20:55:07 |
kristina |
I feed my kids ice cream all the time, I consider it a healthy treat, as long as they eat some healthy protein before the ice cream. |
| 20:55:20 |
kristina |
go to realmilk.com for sources of raw dairy. |
| 20:55:29 |
LoneEagle |
Do you work in the medical field bh? |
| 20:55:33 |
bhtimm |
I was able to get about a pint of raw cream off the top of a gallon and drank that straight |
| 20:55:39 |
bhtimm |
yes, I'm a pharmacist |
| 20:55:48 |
LoneEagle |
Ok |
| 20:55:49 |
michael b |
reading some of the older chats, said stil having tonsils is good. |
| 20:55:57 |
bhtimm |
but I am a full believer in alt med |
| 20:56:02 |
kristina |
yes, still having tonsils is VERY good. |
| 20:56:06 |
LoneEagle |
My main cause is medication-related |
| 20:56:08 |
bhtimm |
and your appendix too |
| 20:56:24 |
LoneEagle |
is |
| 20:56:36 |
Denise |
All five of my siblings and I had ours removed |
| 20:56:57 |
kristina |
Hi Stella, we are just about finished, but do have anything to add? We start at 7, CST |
| 20:56:58 |
Dave |
I somehow escaped the tonsil-taking craze as a kid, happily. |
| 20:56:59 |
bhtimm |
I am curious about Activator X. Is its only source green grass? |
| 20:57:05 |
Denise |
I'll have to look up the downside, but nothing I can do now |
| 20:57:21 |
bhtimm |
to say if cows are eating hay for fodder they have no hope of getting it? |
| 20:57:31 |
stella |
No, I've just been "listening" and trying to take notes. It's a lot of info.. |
| 20:57:36 |
bhtimm |
my father-in-law goes all the way out to SD to get hay for his cows |
| 20:57:42 |
kristina |
Activator X in organ meats from grazing animals |
| 20:58:02 |
stella |
I do have 1 question: I live in NY. does anyone know where I could get raw milk? |
| 20:58:05 |
bhtimm |
the cows on my husband's farm do not graze, but they get a good amount of hay |
| 20:58:17 |
bhtimm |
extra hay that is |
| 20:58:29 |
bhtimm |
they of course grow their own too, but of course not always fresh |
| 20:58:43 |
kristina |
Butter is also a rich source of the substance, especially when it comes from cows that are eating fast growing grass during the spring and fall. |
| 20:58:51 |
kristina |
Your best bet for Activator X-rich butter oil |
| 20:58:54 |
Denise |
Do you refrigerate your butter oil or can you leave it out? |
| 20:59:16 |
firestar |
Hi all. Wish I could have made it on earlier. |
| 20:59:22 |
kristina |
www.realmilk.com for raw milk. I know you can get it in NY but am not sure where. The site has a guide to where. |
| 20:59:30 |
kristina |
You can leave it out. |
| 20:59:35 |
bhtimm |
thanks I saved it in my favorites |
| 20:59:36 |
LoneEagle |
bh could you tell me what diet changes to make if I give you a lost of my meds? |
| 20:59:39 |
kristina |
Hello Firestar |
| 20:59:44 |
LoneEagle |
list |
| 21:00:03 |
bhtimm |
I can maybe with Kristina's help |
| 21:00:24 |
bhtimm |
I can clarify some medication-related issues for her, she would probably be the better for the diet issues per se |
| 21:00:32 |
kristina |
LoneEagle, Heidi and I would love to consult with each other to help you out. Please make an appointment soon. |
| 21:00:47 |
michael b |
kristina, you really need a break, have a wonderful time. |
| 21:00:53 |
kristina |
Good night all, I will shut us down now. I hope to see you all next month. |