| 19:58:18 |
HeidiT |
Hi Kristina, this is Heidi (your Facebook friend) |
| 19:58:31 |
kristina |
Hey Heidi! It is so great to see you here. How are you? |
| 19:58:35 |
HeidiT |
aka "star" on your website |
| 19:58:40 |
kristina |
Welcome, Dave |
| 19:58:51 |
HeidiT |
I am 7 mos pregnant and wanted to ask if a hair analysis would be accurate |
| 19:58:57 |
Dave |
Hi Kris |
| 19:59:45 |
kristina |
Absolutely, and very useful for this period of your pregnancy and for your delivery and postpartum period. More info on Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis |
| 19:59:56 |
kristina |
Welcome, AC |
| 20:00:05 |
HeidiT |
Very good. I've been planning to stop in but keep on forgetting. |
| 20:00:22 |
Dave |
BillsE says hi to you kris, and all others who remember him. |
| 20:00:28 |
kristina |
You can also order the HTMA online at the link above and we ship you want you need. |
| 20:00:36 |
kristina |
thanks |
| 20:01:11 |
HeidiT |
Sorry, I got kicked out b/c I had to allow pop-ups to access the HTML |
| 20:01:25 |
kristina |
Please go ahead with your questions and comments. I will also work to advance a new colon health related thread tonight. |
| 20:01:35 |
kristina |
good to know |
| 20:01:58 |
HeidiT |
I remember reading in your book that your poop should "float." What is the significance of this? |
| 20:02:08 |
ac |
Hi Kristina...this is a follow-up to my inquiry last chat...I have an intact healthy unused colon (ileostomy due to surgical error 12 yrs ago). I have been doing your suggested enema series...how long should I continue to do the series with the soap and salts? |
| 20:02:21 |
kristina |
One topic I want to advance tonight is the role of intestinal parasites |
| 20:02:22 |
HeidiT |
Mine have "floated" lately, but I ate corn on the cob yesterday and it looks like I had undigested COTB |
| 20:02:38 |
jackiep |
I just read your book. Actually, still am, on my fourth reading. I have several questions. First, you said that some people needed to eat up to a stick of butter a day. I wonder HOW exactly one does this without starchy food. |
| 20:03:04 |
ac |
do you also suggest any other additives to the enema series? |
| 20:03:10 |
kristina |
Did you know that the following list is commonly known to be symptoms of intestinal dysbiosis (microbial imbalance)?
* Abdominal pain * Myositis * Constipation * Anaemia * Anorexia * B-12 deficiency * Rectal hemorrhage * Blindness * Hematochezia * Hemoptysis * Dysuria * Central nervous system impairment * Chest pain * Chills * Chronic fatigue * Colitis * Coughing * Diarrhea * Digestive disturbance * Dizziness * Fever * Enlargement of various organs * Headaches * Vaginitis * Jaundice * Joint Pain * Weight loss due to malnutrition * Weakness * Immunodeficiency * Nausea / Vomiting * Swelling of facial features * Sweating * Insomnia * Skin ulcers * Rectal prolaspe * Mental problems * Lung congestion * Memory loss * Night sweats * Muscle spasms |
| 20:03:14 |
HeidiT |
On parasites, I seemed to have a candida problem that has cleared up taking alfalfa (serendipitous as I'm using it for another purpose) |
| 20:03:27 |
jackiep |
Second, is pasture-raised butter a good choice if one can't get it raw? Or is there little point if it's not raw? |
| 20:04:24 |
kristina |
AC, the best way to tell how well the enemas are working to keep your overall health in balance is to have a seasonal hair tissue mineral analysis. |
| 20:04:49 |
ac |
I have read about different recipes...do you suggest any one in particular..as my colon is unused |
| 20:04:50 |
HeidiT |
What, in your opinion, is better? Raw, nonorganic milk / dairy products or organic pasteurized dairy? |
| 20:05:03 |
kristina |
For you, my best guess is to take daily enemas indefinitely |
| 20:05:26 |
kristina |
Floating poop has enough fiber in it |
| 20:05:44 |
kristina |
Corn doesn't digest well for most people. |
| 20:05:46 |
HeidiT |
Ah, I see! |
| 20:06:00 |
kristina |
Hi Jackiep |
| 20:06:12 |
HeidiT |
I juice a lot of veggies (dandelion greens, celery as of late - possibly corresponding with the floating poop) |
| 20:06:31 |
kristina |
Butter....how to eat it without eating starches??? |
| 20:06:38 |
kristina |
Melt it on all warm food. |
| 20:06:44 |
ac |
is aloe vera additive a good enema recipe to soothe the colon? |
| 20:06:45 |
kristina |
Eat it plain |
| 20:07:01 |
HeidiT |
I really appreciate finding out I am a fast oxidizer, I am supplementing with magnesium and it seems to be helping with pregnancy symptoms. |
| 20:07:21 |
kristina |
yes, pasture raised butter is a good choice, always |
| 20:07:48 |
kristina |
I am honored that you are on your fourth reading of my book, Ten Days to Optimal Health. |
| 20:07:51 |
jackiep |
kewl, cause can only get raw *milk* in PA, no milk products |
| 20:08:24 |
HeidiT |
I ask b/c I don't take my doc's advice and eat raw cheese from time to time when pregnant |
| 20:08:39 |
ac |
I also took your advice last chat to use ashwahala(sp?) and eleutro(sp) ... great suggestions....both have been very beneficial |
| 20:08:58 |
HeidiT |
Ashwaganda is the 1st one |
| 20:09:05 |
kristina |
As far as cleansing enema recipes, the most therapeutic is sea salt and either lavender or peppermint oil. |
| 20:09:14 |
jackiep |
you said you ate a lot of raw meat to heal yourself. I wondered what you meant by a lot. I can tolerate nearly-raw beef, but usually only buy burger (which I cook to medium) or tough cuts (which I slow-cook). |
| 20:09:25 |
kristina |
or the goat's milk soaps |
| 20:09:26 |
jackiep |
Pasture-raised beef is so expensive, I rarely buy steak. |
| 20:09:56 |
kristina |
Well done on the juicing, Heidi. I should have you juice for me, too! |
| 20:10:17 |
HeidiT |
I even juiced alfalfa for a couple of weeks - but it produces A LOT of gas! |
| 20:10:26 |
HeidiT |
But now I understand how cows thrive on the stuff |
| 20:10:56 |
ac |
I have used the castile soap with the peppermint for the 1st enema and sea salt for the 2nd....is it OK to do the enema every day? I haven't done the coffee yet...maybe tomorrow |
| 20:11:00 |
HeidiT |
Very rejuvenating |
| 20:11:06 |
kristina |
To find out your oxidization rate use a HTMA or Metabolic Typing |
| 20:12:00 |
ac |
do you recommend adding baking soda to the sea salt enema? and in what quantities? |
| 20:12:18 |
kristina |
All raw dairy is going to make pregnancy better, delivery better, and baby healthier! Go to www.westonaprice.org to learn more. Also, note that Sally Fallon has reviewed my book. |
| 20:12:41 |
kristina |
AC, can you tell us how your health improved using Ashwaganda and Eleuthero? |
| 20:12:54 |
kristina |
Welcome, Scott! |
| 20:13:21 |
kristina |
I have eaten as much as 1.5 pounds of raw meat daily. |
| 20:13:23 |
ac |
I am more energetic and I have overall better sense of good health |
| 20:13:59 |
ac |
The eleuthero tea is wonderful...even my husband is enjoying it |
| 20:14:11 |
Scott W |
Hello, Kristina. I haven't been around for a while. How is your Mom doing? |
| 20:14:38 |
kristina |
Yes, ground is cheapest grass-fed meat. A great source of very high quality meat is North Star Bison. |
| 20:14:50 |
HeidiT |
Here's an interesting article I found on a listserv. I suspect the genes mentioned may have to do with differences in oxidation rates (esp. the DHA content of milk): http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/511688/ |
| 20:15:17 |
jackiep |
I get pasture-raised meat locally, but can't afford large quantities of steak until I'm not disabled |
| 20:15:28 |
ac |
after doing the enema series daily, do you recommend colon hydrotherapy and how often? |
| 20:15:34 |
kristina |
How Often To Take Enemas |
| 20:15:43 |
kristina |
you did it, smile!! |
| 20:16:07 |
kristina |
Of course, there is no single prescription for everyone. A hair tissue mineral analysis (HTMA) gives you a picture of what toxins are stored in your body and what toxins you need to remove. Using the hair analysis on a seasonal basis will guide you to the colon cleansing program that will most suit your needs. |
| 20:16:31 |
kristina |
Thanks for asking, Scott. |
| 20:16:46 |
jackiep |
ok, this might be a tad too chemistry-oriented, but my next quesiton is about the whole deal of getting enzymes in your food - enzymes being protein, protein being denatured by acid, I don't understand how enzymes in your food are going to do anything |
| 20:17:04 |
kristina |
My mom, who had a hemorrhagic stroke in February, is actually doing very well. |
| 20:17:09 |
HeidiT |
I am glad to say I haven't suffered much from constipation at all this pregnancy - but that may have in part to do with the magnesium supplements I'm taking. |
| 20:17:20 |
jackiep |
once they hit your stomach, except act as an additional protein source, since denaturing enzymes makes them not fit their substrate anymore |
| 20:17:29 |
kristina |
She had been struggling much more than she is now because she had months of absolutely no energy. |
| 20:17:42 |
HeidiT |
I've had my "problem area" bleed a couple times and told my doc about it, but I struggled much more with it 1st pregnancy. |
| 20:17:45 |
ac |
can you please tell me what minerals, vitamins, nutrients, etc, are absorbed by the colon? and if it is unused...what happens? |
| 20:18:22 |
kristina |
I have found that Gotu Kola has helped her out tremendously |
| 20:19:34 |
Dave |
Re parasites Kristina mentioned earlier, a local colon hydrotherapist says she sees some returnees from Iraq/Afganistan full of them because of conditions. Usually takes three sessions to work them out. |
| 20:21:13 |
kristina |
Gotu Kola supports the body's normal tissue repair process, promotes normal development of connective and epithelial tissue, and promotes healthy blood vessels |
| 20:21:54 |
Dave |
Is it a supplement? |
| 20:22:16 |
kristina |
Enemas, done well, provide the same benefit as colon hydrotherapy so you only need to use colonics if you want to. |
| 20:23:08 |
HeidiT |
Kris I'm gonna go - but know that I can chat much more frequently on Wed nights now! Maternity leave coming up... |
| 20:23:22 |
HeidiT |
I will try to remember to come in person for a HTMA. |
| 20:24:14 |
ac |
Will I be washing away any important linings or necessary mucus in my colon if I do daily enemas forever...will I affect the muscle tone of the colon with daily enema also? |
| 20:24:16 |
kristina |
Enzymes in food...Did you know that breast milk is enzyme-rich? Breast milk is in the raw, uncooked state which means it contains natural enzymes to aid in its digestion, thus requiring little digestive effort on the part of the infant. |
| 20:25:21 |
HeidiT |
That's absolutely true - And did anyone know that if a mom gets milk from a human milk bank it is GASP - pasteurized? |
| 20:25:52 |
kristina |
Enzyme-rich, which is easily digested food, can be assimilated with less energy expenditure |
| 20:26:04 |
jackiep |
I get little human breast milk in my current diet ;) There's a few "alternative" things I've never "got" (though your book cleared up some of them for me). Enzymes, I don't get it. Seems like it'd just be more protein after it hit the stomach acid. |
| 20:26:28 |
HeidiT |
There's a great group on Yahoo called Milkshare where you can get milk from milk donors and not get the pasteurized stuff - not to mention, milk banks are EXPENSIVE |
| 20:26:57 |
HeidiT |
Yeah, I have a hard time understanding the enzyme concept too. Certain enzymes are active at different pH's |
| 20:27:15 |
HeidiT |
Take pepsin for example |
| 20:27:44 |
kristina |
I have been working with Diagnos-Techs and their Gastrointestinal Health Panels. |
| 20:28:02 |
HeidiT |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsin |
| 20:29:01 |
kristina |
I am simply amazed at how commonly I see Blastocystis hominis, entamoeba hartmanni and histolytica, Clostridium dificile, Toxoplasma and more in people's stools |
| 20:29:25 |
kristina |
And, then, when we eliminate those organisms, how their health improves. |
| 20:29:36 |
kristina |
Gotu Kola is an herb |
| 20:29:54 |
Dave |
Thanks. |
| 20:30:02 |
kristina |
We offer it in liquid and capsules from Standard Process and Medi Herbs |
| 20:30:10 |
HeidiT |
What is a natural alternative to antibiotics for treating C. dificile? |
| 20:30:15 |
kristina |
Bye, Heidi. |
| 20:30:23 |
kristina |
Thanks much for coming on tonight. |
| 20:30:28 |
HeidiT |
Sorry I'm not gone yet |
| 20:31:04 |
ac |
hopefully in time my colon will be strong and I will think about a reversal of my ileostomy...so for now, daily castile enema followed by sea salts...and maybe coffee too.....what about the baking soda additive to the sea salts? any other additives? |
| 20:32:06 |
kristina |
The colon is thought to absorb sodium, potassium, water, acids, gases, some short-chain fatty acids metabolized from plant fibers and undigested starch, and vitamins synthesized by bacteria (biotin and Vitamin K). |
| 20:32:50 |
kristina |
Hi Butch |
| 20:32:52 |
jackiep |
Next question is... I understand you recommend sea salt. Generally, it has very little mineral content other than sodium and chloride, so if one has very hard well water, makes bone broths and has lots of organic veggies, seems the mineral are OK. |
| 20:33:36 |
ac |
with an ileostomy we are continuously dehydrated...the enemas help with the hydration too...also always take a vitamin each day |
| 20:33:41 |
jackiep |
I've been using Lite Salt for MANY years as I have a tendency to lose potassium, and it's half potassium. I haven't started enemas yet, and because I have bp issues, I thought the solution should be isotonic, but wanted more K instead of Na. |
| 20:33:54 |
jackiep |
So do you think Lite Salt would be inappropriate for this use? |
| 20:34:08 |
kristina |
I don't believe that enzymes are destroyed in the stomach. |
| 20:34:28 |
jackiep |
P.S. I *had* bp issues, I've been doing raw milk for a month, which has made it harder to tightly control bg, but has lowered my bp significantly - I'm off Lisinopril now. |
| 20:34:40 |
ac |
why sea salt??? |
| 20:34:51 |
kristina |
Saccharomyces Boulardii |
| 20:35:24 |
jackiep |
sorry my questions are so long - they don't fit in one message ;) |
| 20:35:41 |
ac |
would iodized table sea in the enema work too? |
| 20:35:51 |
kristina |
accharomyces boulardii (SB) is a live yeast which scientific studies suggest protects the gut from amoebas and cholera, may keep candida from spreading, alleviates diarrhea caused by c. difficile, Crohn's disease and diarrhea of unknown cause in PWAs, and traveller's diarrhea. |
| 20:36:22 |
HeidiT |
Does Saccharomyces cerevisiae (Brewer's yeast) offer similar benefits? |
| 20:36:23 |
jackiep |
hmmm... if food is solid, in a mass, in the stomach, some enzyme content would not be destroyed because it'd be physically protected from the acid... but liquid foods, probably not so much |
| 20:36:32 |
kristina |
Probiotic Supplements |
| 20:36:43 |
kristina |
Ortho Saccharomyces Boulardii 60 count |
| 20:37:31 |
HeidiT |
That's kinda what I suspected - that the foods acted as sort of a "buffer". That's also why it's thought that probiotic foods (kefir, kombucha, etc) keep the stomach from destroying the probiotic bacteria |
| 20:37:50 |
kristina |
Sea salt contains about 80 mineral elements that the body needs. |
| 20:38:12 |
kristina |
Coconut water is also an excellent source of minerals. |
| 20:38:22 |
kristina |
especially potassium |
| 20:38:45 |
HeidiT |
ok now I'm gonna go - my back is killing me but will come back again. Thanks, Kris |
| 20:38:59 |
ac |
thank Kristina...perfect answer.....it will definitely be sea salt? |
| 20:39:18 |
kristina |
yes |
| 20:39:37 |
kristina |
Iodized salt is not recommended. |
| 20:39:46 |
ac |
Did you suggest coconut water for an enema additive? |
| 20:40:36 |
jackiep |
Does coconut water stop leg cramps? Lite Salt is half potassium and stops them IMMEDIATELY (though is nasty). And can be kept by the nightstand (which is good cause they mostly happen at night when I forget to salt my food for a while). |
| 20:40:41 |
jackiep |
<- doesn't like salt |
| 20:40:53 |
kristina |
The adrenal glands, located one on top of each kidney, are stress glands that help us cope with internal and external stress factors, both physical and mental. Additional jobs of the adrenal glands include: Manufacturing mineral corticoids, which balance all the minerals (builders and communicators) in the body. For instance, mineral corticoids help insure calcium is absorbed into the bones and magnesium to the muscles. Mineral corticoids balance our electrical system with sodium and potassium so that our nerve impulses are adequate. Mineral corticoids manage our salt and water |
| 20:41:26 |
jackiep |
lite salt is not iodized, which I probably have an iodine deficiency cause I haven't use iodized salt in about 2 decades... |
| 20:41:31 |
ac |
I have been using the celtic sea salt...but if I do the enemas daily, I was thinking I could use table salt if i ran out of sea salt....I won't do that |
| 20:41:34 |
kristina |
In other words, if one has mineral balance issues, check your adrenal health |
| 20:42:40 |
jackiep |
<- has adrenal issues (sister has severe salt-wasting form of congenital adrenal hyperplasis) so I lose K FAST on low-carb - hence the lite salt for 2 decades now |
| 20:42:46 |
kristina |
Yes, coconut water does stop leg cramps, but again, the adrenal glands are likely not functioning well and are so key to overall health that I would address this core issue |
| 20:43:25 |
kristina |
I am new to coconut water but it seems to me that it could be a fabulous enema implant. |
| 20:43:27 |
jackiep |
it's genetic in my case - hard to address with only one copy of the gene for the enzyme that makes cortisol and aldosterone |
| 20:43:51 |
kristina |
Hi Joe! |
| 20:44:41 |
ac |
besides the daily enema series...should I also do any type of implants to keep this colon healthy? |
| 20:44:49 |
jackiep |
can you buy coconut water canned? I don't think I've ever seen it except from whole coconuts when I lived in FL |
| 20:44:52 |
kristina |
Congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) refers to any of several autosomal recessive diseases resulting from mutations of genes for enzymes mediating the biochemical steps of production of cortisol from cholesterol by the adrenal glands (steroidogenesis). |
| 20:45:26 |
ac |
is coconut water the same as coconut milk? |
| 20:45:38 |
jackiep |
yeah, I know ;) I did a seminar on CAH in grad school - my sister was the first person with the severe salt-wasting form who lived - she's all over the medical literature (not by name, of course) |
| 20:45:52 |
kristina |
Even with your genetics, you still want to optimize your mineralocorticoids |
| 20:46:16 |
kristina |
no, coconut water and coconut milk are very different |
| 20:46:17 |
jackiep |
no, coconut water is what you get when you poke holes in a whole coocnut and drain it, coconut milk is the liquid after mashing the meat of the coconut |
| 20:46:55 |
kristina |
I posted the definition for others to follow the subject! |
| 20:46:58 |
jackiep |
yeah, I'm starting on freeze-dried raw bovine adrenal cortex in a day or two (when they arrive) |
| 20:47:03 |
ac |
thanks..I am definitely new to this information...I appreciate it |
| 20:47:16 |
kristina |
Good question, AC |
| 20:47:57 |
kristina |
more information on parasite infections: In some people, intestinal worms do not cause any symptoms, or the symptoms may come and go. If you have some of these symptoms, it does not necessarily mean that you are infected. This symptoms are also signs of other diseases. Common signs and complaints include coughing, cramping abdominal pain, bloating, flatulence and diarrhea. In more serious infections, diminished sex drive, skin-itching, fever, nausea, vomiting, or bloody stools may occur. |
| 20:48:03 |
jackiep |
gotcha kristina, it's a pretty esoteric subject though ;) I never expect anyone to know what it is - my sister makes NO cortisol or aldosterone at ALL; I make *some* but not as much as people who have 2 good genes as I only have 1 good gene |
| 20:48:14 |
kristina |
Also, my home page will soon have a bit on parasites |
| 20:48:26 |
ac |
I am sure Whole Foods has coconut water |
| 20:48:33 |
kristina |
What are the main symptoms for you and your sister? |
| 20:48:46 |
kristina |
Yes, Whole Foods does. I just had some tonight from there. |
| 20:49:31 |
jackiep |
my sister? her main symptom is she will die if she doesn't take aldosterone daily - lack of cortisol won't kill her, but she is usually either over or under medicated, thus has symptoms like Addison's or Cushings |
| 20:49:41 |
kristina |
Anyone else have anything they want to talk about as we will be wrapping this up for the month in 10 minutes. |
| 20:49:52 |
ac |
adding coconut water to my shopping list for the morning...shall I use it for an implant? will it soothe??? |
| 20:50:02 |
jackiep |
I don't know WHICH of my symptoms are adrenal as I have a lot of other health problems |
| 20:50:10 |
kristina |
We won't have the daytime Live Chat this month as I will be out of town. We will continue the daytime live chat in August. |
| 20:50:42 |
kristina |
You might try it, AC, and let us know how it worked for you. We are paving the way here. |
| 20:51:06 |
kristina |
That is hard. |
| 20:51:10 |
Dave |
Looking forward to the parasite issue as I've had some pass, though not recently. |
| 20:51:59 |
ac |
thank you Kristina...you are most helpful....I will keep you posted on my unused colon progress....have a good trip and talk with you soon..on to coconut water! |
| 20:52:18 |
kristina |
The risk of being infected by pathogenic organisms through food and water is ever increasing. This is due to several reasons: immigration; frequent overseas travel; importation of vegetables and fruits; lack of a public health policy to screen food handlers for transmissible pathogens; outdoor and wilderness excursions; alternate lifestyles; agricultural pollution; pets at home, etc. |
| 20:52:40 |
jackiep |
in my case, cows who poop near the well ;) |
| 20:52:43 |
Dave |
How about bifudis as an implant, maybe only 2 or 3 ounce solution to retain? |
| 20:53:02 |
kristina |
Given the stress inherent in modern living, it is essential to give the body adequate nutrition to lessen chances of adrenal exhaustion; and, in many cases, to assist the healing of the adrenal glands themselves. Persistent fatigue, a racing brain, an inability to "turn off" the feeling of being stressed out, as well as a lack of vitality, all point to adrenal exhaustion. The good news is that by keeping your blood sugar balanced, by eating small amounts of food often, and by eating animal protein throughout the day, you can keep your adrenal glands in a vital state of health. |
| 20:53:18 |
jackiep |
from anyone, not just kristina, any advice for a newbie who is semi-scared of the whole enema thing and procrastinating? |
| 20:53:48 |
kristina |
Bifidonate works in the large intestine to keep it healthy and help deter undesirable bacteria |
| 20:53:53 |
kristina |
More info on Bifidonate |
| 20:54:11 |
ac |
there is nothing scary about enemas...it is all about well being and optimal health |
| 20:54:44 |
jackiep |
my bg is not balanced, I'm a T2 diabetic for over 20 yrs, on insulin for 2 years niow, and have something that might be chronic fatigue for 2 years now also (since a surgery) |
| 20:54:50 |
kristina |
my written material on using enemas safely |
| 20:55:02 |
kristina |
Also, you can find two clips on YouTube under my name |
| 20:55:05 |
jackiep |
I read everything on your site and bought a couple videos |
| 20:55:28 |
jackiep |
just... seem to not get around to it - don't know why I'm so hesitant |
| 20:55:29 |
ac |
I have added the enema series to my morning ritual...make for a great and healthy day! |
| 20:55:46 |
jackiep |
how long does it take to take a series? |
| 20:55:58 |
kristina |
my YouTube videos |
| 20:56:10 |
kristina |
A series takes 1/2 hour to one hour |
| 20:56:26 |
ac |
take your time...about 1/2 hour plus to my morning |
| 20:57:16 |
ac |
since receiving Kristina's advice on the enema series I feel wonderful..... |
| 20:57:53 |
kristina |
Thanks, AC |
| 20:57:58 |
kristina |
A very sweet way to end. |
| 20:58:02 |
ac |
refreshing and healthy beginning of the day |
| 20:58:02 |
kristina |
Next Live Chat |
| 20:58:08 |
kristina |
7pm, July 8th |
| 20:58:14 |
ac |
bye |
| 20:58:20 |
kristina |
bye all |
| 20:58:25 |
jackiep |
will be back! I've got more questions! :) thanks very much kristina and everyone! |
| 20:58:29 |
Scott W |
bye |
| 20:58:32 |
kristina |
sorry if I missed any questions or didn't fully address your issues |
| 20:58:35 |
Dave |
bye, all be well. |
| 20:59:06 |
kristina |
Please do call or email or come back next month, or all of the above, if you want more on a certain subject |