| 16:59:23 | Michael | hello Lisa |
| 16:59:38 | Lisa |
Hello there! |
| 16:59:48 | Michael | and also michael_b |
| 16:59:50 | kristina | Hello Everyone! How is your spring weather where you are? |
| 17:00:20 | Michael | hi Kristina. we finally are getting good weather out here |
| 17:00:28 | kristina | Where do you all live? |
| 17:00:30 | Lisa | Hi Kris! Spring has been beautiful in Austin! |
| 17:00:38 | Michael | Mass |
| 17:00:52 | kristina | The last two days in Madison, WI have been in the 70s and sunny. I love it. |
| 17:01:11 | kristina | Do try to take a bit of time in every day and get 20-90 minutes of sunshine. |
| 17:01:30 | Lisa | Madison is having weather like in Austin!! |
| 17:01:32 | Michael | ..... but I don't know about the rest of the people here. ;) |
| 17:01:44 | kristina |
Please do go ahead and lay out what your questions, comments, thoughts are. |
| 17:02:22 | kristina |
I do want to let everyone know that we have a new downloadable video about colon hydrotherapy. |
| 17:02:38 | Mike_K | Kristina |
| 17:02:49 | Michael | this is the first time I've been able to visit the chat so I'll sit back for a bit if it's ok |
| 17:02:51 | kristina | I know you have spoken about it elsewhere, Lisa, but I would love to hear your thoughts on the movie today. |
| 17:03:18 | kristina | Yes, Michael, that is fine. And, we certainly welcome any and all thoughts you might have. |
| 17:03:27 | Michael | thank you |
| 17:03:51 | kristina |
The movie, Cleansing Using Colon Hydrotherapy, is for those folks who want to try colon cleansing using colon hydrotherapy but never have. |
| 17:04:07 | kristina | I detail the entire process in a clear and friendly manner. |
| 17:04:28 | kristina | I think that once a person has seen the movie, they will be eager to try colon hydrotherapy. |
| 17:04:28 | Lisa | I wish I would have had a movie like this before I had my first colonic. I would have been much calmer knowing what was going to happen. The movie is in great detail. |
| 17:04:48 | kristina | Welcome Sawdis and CaveMan. |
| 17:04:58 | Sawdis | TY :) |
| 17:05:10 | The_Cave_Man |
Hi Kris. I should have used the name "Mike"...*smile* |
| 17:05:15 | kristina | Ty, is that your name? |
| 17:05:19 | kristina | And, Mike? |
| 17:05:26 | kristina |
We have lots of Mikes here today. |
| 17:05:36 | The_Cave_Man | That was a joke. |
| 17:05:46 | kristina | funny....I am laughing.... |
| 17:06:15 | kristina | Mike_K, were you about to say something? |
| 17:06:21 | Mike_K | What are your thoughts on hydrogen peroxide therapy ? |
| 17:06:43 | The_Cave_Man | Kris: Is there a particular topic? Or just whatever comes to mind? |
| 17:07:04 | kristina | Well, I just recently posted about using hydrogen peroxide in the ears to avoid a cold or flu on the message boards recently. |
| 17:07:33 | Lisa | That was a very interesting post Kris! |
| 17:07:33 | kristina | Mostly, we don't have a topic but just let people bring out what is on their minds. |
| 17:07:43 | Mike_K | That's why I asked about it |
| 17:07:43 | The_Cave_Man | Thanks. |
| 17:07:52 | kristina |
The things on my mind are the fact that April is Cancer Control Month; the new movie; |
| 17:08:47 | kristina |
I just used it myself yesterday, in my ears, but didn't see results this time. I have used it in the past with great success. Has anyone else used hydrogen peroxide for health benefits? |
| 17:09:29 | The_Cave_Man |
Kristina: May I ask about your experience dealing with fibro patients in your colonic practice? |
| 17:09:33 | kristina | also, the message boards. |
| 17:10:07 | kristina |
I have worked with a handful of people with fibromyalgia. Over the past 8 years I have probably seen about 20 people. |
| 17:10:36 | kristina | Out of these 20 people, I think all have seen a decrease of pain, as long as they follow a regime in their day-to-day lives. |
| 17:10:40 | mOUSE | I have it fair severe. |
| 17:10:47 | The_Cave_Man | Have you worked with any of them long enough to be able to say whether or not colonics have been of benefit? |
| 17:11:16 | kristina |
I find that once a person finds themselves with the constellation of symptoms we call "fibromyalgia," the body has taken a beating and must be well cared for. |
| 17:11:37 | kristina |
Say more, please, mouse. |
| 17:11:42 | mOUSE | How? |
| 17:11:44 | The_Cave_Man |
That's an understatement if I've ever heard one...:) |
| 17:12:08 | mOUSE |
Very bad at night |
| 17:12:14 | kristina | Yes, indeed, it is an understatement. |
| 17:12:16 | mOUSE | Noctornal pain all over. |
| 17:12:20 | The_Cave_Man |
Yes, Mouse, I'd like to hear more as well. |
| 17:12:44 | mOUSE | I use Tol 3 to help in the winter |
| 17:12:58 | mOUSE |
Somewhat successful |
| 17:12:59 | kristina |
And, the words that need to be illuminated here are that caring for oneself well does tend to improve one's life. |
| 17:13:04 | Wendy |
Kristina: Do you regard the knee-chest position as effective as using a colon tube? Thanks. |
| 17:13:12 | mOUSE |
and use the olympic Hot water bottle |
| 17:13:20 | kristina | But, now the hard question becomes what does it mean to care for yourself well, as an individual? |
| 17:13:26 | mOUSE | 4+ quarts |
| 17:13:59 | The_Cave_Man | Please continue, Kris. I'd like to see where you are going with this... |
| 17:14:14 | mOUSE | Yes, do |
| 17:15:34 | mOUSE | lol |
| 17:15:48 | mOUSE | Mouse is playing around now |
| 17:16:01 | kristina | I find that people can heal, fully, but will always need to take really good care of themselves and be creative, as you so elegantly wrote about on the message boards, CaveMan. |
| 17:16:40 | mOUSE |
Sailing helps me so to forget chronic pain. |
| 17:16:52 | The_Cave_Man | Thank you for the compliment, Kristina. But I do not believe I spend much time caring for myself. |
| 17:16:59 | The_Cave_Man | It's a matter of time. |
| 17:17:15 | kristina | You have found a certain massage protocol to work wonders, yeah? The question becomes how might colon cleansing, diet, sleep, close relationships, emotional healing, spiritual healing also contribute to a symptom-free life? |
| 17:17:33 | The_Cave_Man | It seems to take lots of time to really treat your body in a healthy fashion. |
| 17:17:50 | kristina | Wendy, are you still here? |
| 17:18:09 | kristina |
Is the knee-chest position as effective as using a colon tube for...? |
| 17:18:12 | mOUSE | She split a few |
| 17:18:30 | Sawdis |
i wanted to get back to the hydrogen peroxide; are diluted food grade HP enemas good for anything? i know they are very painful if you use too much |
| 17:18:39 | kristina | I will assume the question continues on as for fully clearing out the colon using enemas? |
| 17:19:13 | Mike_K | Kris she left |
| 17:19:32 | kristina | I am not experienced with using hydrogen peroxide in enemas? Are you? I recommended using hydrogen peroxide in one's ears at the onset of a cold or flu. |
| 17:20:02 | Mike_K | Sawdis |
| 17:20:06 | Sawdis | no i was just asking |
| 17:20:11 | kristina | Bottom line is that the most comfortable position for the person taking the enema is often the best position for using enemas effectively. |
| 17:21:47 | Mike_K |
The only type of hydrogen peroxide to use internally, whether ingested or taken rectally, needs to be food grade. It also needs to get diluted to 3%. Then at 3% using too much can still be uncomfortable |
| 17:21:54 | The_Cave_Man | Sawdis: Is there some information you can share regarding H2O2 enemas? I would think that would be a dangerous practice. |
| 17:22:06 | kristina | The knee-chest position is an excellent position in that it can be a comfortable position to be in during an enema. |
| 17:22:16 | mOUSE | Is filtered water really needed or is just letting the water age, stand for a long time as good? |
| 17:22:47 | Lisa | How is your new book doing Kris? Any more positive comments from anyone that is using your book? |
| 17:23:32 | kristina | Additionally, the knee-chest position puts the colon in a position to be able to easily receive enema solution with the least amount of cramping. |
| 17:23:58 | Sawdis | i have no positive information on H2O2 enemas i just read about it at rogue sites. i just wanted to see what people say about it here |
| 17:24:02 | Lisa | I have put more fat in my diet and feel so much better. So many are afraid of eating too much fat. |
| 17:24:07 | kristina | I think it is a better place to start, along with a retention nozzle, than a colon tube, which isn't to say that colon tubes aren't wonderful when used well. |
| 17:25:21 | Sawdis | since i did Kris's detox diet and then a few more enemas and months later i was able to tolerate moderate amounts of fat again |
| 17:25:28 | Lisa | Retention nozzles are much easier to use. For me anyway. |
| 17:25:41 | kristina | I recommend the cleanest water one can find. The water available to people is different. For instance, on my farm, I have a high quality well water that I do not need to filter, but when I am in the city, I would always use filtered water. |
| 17:26:09 | kristina | Please check your own water quality. |
| 17:26:26 | mOUSE | OK , Thank you. |
| 17:27:12 | kristina | Here is one recent report back on my book: |
| 17:27:15 | kristina |
I am plowing through your excellent book and will probably finish tomorrow. Your tone and your gift is that our bodies will heal. It is so positive and gentle, like YOU! Other practitioners are VERY DOGMATIC about their program and feel OK about telling you all the things you did WRONG and how they will FIX you ONLY if you behave EXACTLY as they prescribe. Alternative people are worse than the regular docs. When you have cancer...everyone tells you exactly the cure that will work....it has the tone of..."just do it, stupid." |
| 17:27:33 | kristina |
Since I've known you, you are different and that is a relief. ...even before I knew you...your emails to me and your web site. |
| 17:27:51 | kristina | I drank a cup of the raw milk with no stomach upset. It felt awesome to drink milk again. I love milk!!! |
| 17:28:06 | Michael |
I'm not a dietitian or doctor but I believe the human body is able to process such things as fat in a normal and healthy diet. |
| 17:28:11 | kristina | Thank you for your liver gift. I ate some liver every day last week, now I will just keep going. I feel better. Emotionally. I feel hopeful. |
| 17:28:25 | kristina | Your personal experiences are the best part of your book. Like your giving up coffee story. So sad, wonderful, compassionate and underscores my belief...it is all important and connected, spiritually. |
| 17:28:41 | Sawdis | depends on the fat ;-) |
| 17:29:08 | kristina | That is great news, Lisa. Can you share with us what foods that have fats that you have added? |
| 17:30:08 | mOUSE |
why do they say coconut and avocado fat is bad for you? |
| 17:30:09 | kristina | Yes, fats are key for good health. And, there are good fats and bad fats. |
| 17:30:23 | Lisa | I am drinking whole milk, and I had bacon today. That's unusual for me. But now it will be a part of my diet. |
| 17:30:37 | kristina | For instance, you don't want to eat the fat that most of our readily available foods are fried in. |
| 17:31:09 | Lisa | Fried food is the worst for your health!! |
| 17:31:15 | kristina | For instance, french fries, chips, crackers...all contain trans fats. |
| 17:31:44 | mOUSE | i agree with that statement 100% |
| 17:31:45 | Michael | right. that isn't what I was referring too. the fat that is part of most unprocessed meats like the bacon Lisa just spoke of. |
| 17:32:10 | Mike_K | There is hardly anything better than eggs cooked in bacon fat |
| 17:32:15 | Michael | natural fats, not something added |
| 17:33:01 | Sawdis | Kristina i'm going to get the new book but do you still not recommend peanuts? the fat in peanut butter is very similar to other nut butters so I was wondering about that. |
| 17:33:19 | mOUSE |
Wisconsinite used to use bacon fat on black bread in the '40s. |
| 17:33:34 | Lisa | I had the greatest bacon at Kris's house! I try to get good bacon where I live. |
| 17:33:53 | kristina |
7. Healthy Fats - Eat healthy fats throughout the day. Healthy fats include, but are not limited to: grass-fed butter, grass-fed butter oil, grassfed meat, ocean-caught fish, fish oils, cod liver oil, coconut oil, grass-fed ghee, avocados, flax-seed oil, pasture-raised eggs, olive oil, nuts, and seeds. |
| 17:34:39 | kristina |
Saturated fat is thought to be "bad" for our health. As it turns out, it is not. |
| 17:34:54 | kristina |
Cholesterol in foods is thought to be "bad" for us, as it turns out, it is not. |
| 17:35:13 | mOUSE |
I see that more and more now. |
| 17:35:26 | kristina | Yes, healthy eggs in healthy bacon fat are excellent foods. |
| 17:35:42 | Lisa |
Kris, those were your pigs I ate, huh? |
| 17:35:43 | mOUSE | Wow |
| 17:35:56 | mOUSE |
No statins to take with that diet? |
| 17:36:18 | Michael | just look at the reversal of thinking about eggs in the last few years. Not long ago they were preaching that eggs were a major killer. |
| 17:36:18 | kristina | Yes, we raised the pigs. |
| 17:36:24 | Lisa | Those were your pigs you had on your farm I meant to say! |
| 17:36:28 | mOUSE |
I am afraid of RX statins |
| 17:37:17 | kristina |
We offer a book on the site called The Cholesterol Myths. |
| 17:37:29 | Michael | at the first hint of a heart problem they took away anything that was made from or with eggs. |
| 17:37:31 | mOUSE |
A lot of MDs do still condemn the egg. |
| 17:37:37 | kristina | The cholesterol issue is not as it seems. |
| 17:37:52 | The_Cave_Man |
Kristina: I must run. I have a couple of more loads to haul before the day is finished. Thank you for the chat and I will be in touch soon. Good day.... |
| 17:37:53 | kristina | The cholesterol issue is about money and not optimizing people's health. |
| 17:38:02 | kristina | I do write lots about this in my book. For instance, |
| 17:38:06 | Mike_K | The cholesterol issue is more to sell Lipitor and other drugs like it |
| 17:38:17 | michael_b | the latest harvard wellness letter talks about the same healthy fats |
| 17:38:30 | Lisa | I'm glad I didn't meet your pigs. I can't eat the animals I've seen already!! It's too sad! |
| 17:38:59 | kristina | One saturated fat we are all familiar with is cholesterol. Cholesterol is the precursor to bile acids, which are needed to digest and absorb long-chain fatty acids. Cholesterol is also recognized for its physiological importance in the skin and the intestines where it plays an important structural role as a component of the organ membranes. |
| 17:39:18 | Michael | Lisa it is a lot worse if you knew them by name. :) |
| 17:39:29 | Mike_K | I'm wondering if Kristina goes out in the morning and makes pigs and chickens do calisthenics |
| 17:39:32 | kristina | Cells lining the digestive tract are particularly rich in cholesterol. Among its other various roles in the cell are the signaling activities that, for example, tell the gastrointestinal musculature when to contract. I don’t know how many people I have seen relieved of their chronic constipation, as well as any related Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), when they finally ate enough cholesterol in their daily diet. |
| 17:39:47 | kristina |
Cholesterol is responsible for our sex and adrenal hormones. It is also one of our primary repair mechanisms, which is why our arteries end up with patches of repairing cholesterol. Low-density lipoproteins, or LDL, carry cholesterol to the cells, which means that our LDL numbers need to be high enough. |
| 17:39:50 | Lisa | Very true Michael! |
| 17:40:35 | Lisa | I will NEVER eat goat meat!!! |
| 17:41:04 | Michael | sounds like you grew fond of Billy the goat? LOL |
| 17:41:04 | kristina | I do find it hard to eat the animals that I raise and kill, but I think it makes me a better person to do so, given that I eat meat. I need to take responsibility for what I am doing, killing animals to optimize my own health. |
| 17:41:09 | Lisa | I know too many goats by name! |
| 17:41:25 | Mike_K |
The last pig I raised was named sidemeat |
| 17:41:38 | Michael | I know a few old goats myself |
| 17:41:44 | kristina | My son named our pigs Bacon and Pork Chops |
| 17:41:50 | mOUSE | Me, LOL |
| 17:42:56 | kristina | Learn more, Michael. I think you might be surprised at all you find out and much you improve your health. |
| 17:43:27 | kristina | And, of course, we need to be thoughtful about where the meat we eat comes from. |
| 17:43:31 | Sawdis | but what about the peanuts? :? |
| 17:43:36 | michael_b |
we are all just familar with porky, petunia, huey duey and louie, and such. |
| 17:43:43 | kristina | Did you all watch the video I put on the message boards from the meatrix folks? |
| 17:43:44 | Michael | yes that is true Kristina. I try. |
| 17:44:28 | kristina | And, a note, Michael Moore is coming out with a movie about the pharmacuetical industry in the fall. I have written him a few times asking him if I could be in it as he is looking for people who have a story like mine. |
| 17:44:39 | kristina | Peanuts..... |
| 17:44:45 | kristina | Well,..... |
| 17:44:50 | kristina | dare I say.... |
| 17:45:02 | kristina | I no longer think that nuts are the best food. |
| 17:45:14 | Sawdis | *) |
| 17:45:21 | kristina | However, they are fine in small amounts but not as the main source of one's protein. |
| 17:45:29 | mOUSE | WHAT? Look at the squirrels jump. |
| 17:45:46 | mOUSE | Oh |
| 17:45:53 | kristina | You have a point there, Mouse.... |
| 17:45:58 | Sawdis |
ok so its not just peanuts - it's ALL nuts then? |
| 17:46:02 | Michael | imagine the state of affairs if big drugs and big oil were to have their lids blown off? |
| 17:46:11 | mOUSE | I feed them all of the time |
| 17:46:20 | Lisa | Living in Texas, I get fresh pecans! I don't eat too many, but I do enjoy pecans. |
| 17:46:25 | kristina |
Peanuts are very high in the fatty acid omega 6, which none of us need very much of. |
| 17:46:31 | Michael | people just might be able to live decent and healthy again |
| 17:46:36 | mOUSE | Spend a lot on nuts and corn. |
| 17:47:25 | mOUSE |
Roasted pecans on brie, Mmmmm |
| 17:47:26 | kristina | phytic acid that are present in the outer skin or milled product. This means that all commercial bread, crackers, muffins, pasta, and other products made from these foods put a strain on your digestion. |
| 17:47:46 | kristina | All grains, nuts, and seeds have enzyme inhibitors and phytic acid that are present in the outer skin or milled product. This means that all commercial bread, crackers, muffins, pasta, and other products made from these foods put a strain on your digestion. |
| 17:48:39 | kristina | Depending on only plant sources of protein to get therapeutic amounts of certain amino acids often overloads your system with toxic nutrients. For example, if you rely on nuts and seeds as a primary protein source, you are altering your body’s ratio of omega 3 to omega 6 fats, creating an imbalance. This imbalance of omega 3 to omega 6 fatty acids is now known to cause many health problems. |
| 17:48:45 | Sawdis | yeah you did said to stay away from grains in the web run of the book. I have to get that new revision... |
| 17:49:28 | kristina | Again, it is important to know the fact that not one plan fits all when it comes to protein consumption. Protein needs vary according to one’s age and activity. For some participants, just eating an organic egg or two, a cup of raw cream, a full glass of raw milk, and some chicken broth throughout the day, supplemented with nuts and seeds, is plenty of animal protein. Another person may find he needs as much as 2 servings of lamb, 4 oz of fish, a few slices of raw cheese, a handful of pumpkin seeds and a serving of grass-fed beef all in the same day. |
| 17:49:40 | Sawdis | stay away during the detox at least... |
| 17:49:58 | kristina | Also, peanuts often have a mold on them. |
| 17:50:03 | kristina | Yes, stay away during the fast. |
| 17:51:27 | Michael | as a quick comparison, fish, beef, or pork. which naturally occuring fat would be the healthiest? |
| 17:51:28 | mOUSE | We are in the 80s here in Riverside, IL |
| 17:51:56 | kristina | It all depends on how the animal is raised. All of those fats can be excellent. |
| 17:52:16 | kristina | With that said, fish live in polluted waters and toxins are stored in fat. |
| 17:52:26 | Michael | lets just say all are bought at a typical supermarket |
| 17:52:57 | kristina | I have an appointment at 6, so I am going to say good-bye now and close the chat. Any last comments or questions? I do so appreciate you all being here tonight with me. Thank you. |
| 17:53:12 | Sawdis | no you were very good today :) |
| 17:53:23 | mOUSE | Thanks for the time Kristina |
| 17:53:28 | Mike_K | Take care Kris |
| 17:53:28 | Michael |
thanks for being here. enjoy the rest of the evening |
| 17:53:50 | mOUSE | :) |
| 17:53:52 | Lisa | Thank you Kris for your time, and thank you everyone for joining us today! CIAO!! |
| 17:53:59 | kristina | Thank you and Good Night. |
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