| 12:57:02 | Mike | hi kristina |
| 12:57:28 | kristina | Hi |
| 12:58:19 | kristina | How is your health these days? |
| 12:58:25 | Mike | I hope that you are doing well |
| 12:58:28 | Mike |
I'm good |
| 12:58:44 | Mike | hi deb |
| 12:58:49 | Deb S | Hi |
| 12:59:05 | kristina | Welcome, Deb! |
| 12:59:13 | kristina | Hi Gino! |
| 12:59:17 | Deb S | Glad I got on |
| 12:59:23 | gino | hi Kristina |
| 12:59:24 | kristina | Me, too! |
| 12:59:58 | gino | I have just gone through a 4 month illness which completely stopped my digestion |
| 13:00:15 | Deb S | I have been doing coffee enemas for almost three years and I am still really fatigued. |
| 13:00:45 | kristina | Yikes to both of you! |
| 13:00:48 | Deb S | have been constipated for entire life also |
| 13:00:56 | Mike | I occasionally get colonics and usually take enemas weekly or every other week |
| 13:01:08 | kristina | Deb, it sounds like you are struggling with adrenal fatigue. |
| 13:01:09 | gino |
peace to all of you. I wish you the best... |
| 13:01:26 | Deb S | could be i am under constant stress |
| 13:01:35 | Deb S |
any suggestions? |
| 13:01:43 | kristina |
would you consider having an adrenal stress index test? |
| 13:01:50 | Deb S | yes |
| 13:02:04 | Deb S |
what about the constipation? |
| 13:02:52 | kristina |
Can you tell me what you have done up to this point? |
| 13:02:54 | Mike |
is there a problem with using enemas weekly or biweekly? |
| 13:03:21 | Deb S |
enzymes, coffee enemas, better not perfect diet |
| 13:03:48 | Deb S | I have much physical pain also |
| 13:04:44 | kristina | For most people frequent enemas are not a problem. The best way to tell is to look at the hair using a hair tissue mineral analysis. |
| 13:05:12 | kristina | The reason we look at the hair is because it gives us a window into electrolyte or mineral levels over the past 3 months. |
| 13:05:12 | Deb S | i had one a year ago and it showed that i was protein deficient |
| 13:05:26 | TaraM | Hi Kristina, Hi Room! |
| 13:05:31 | Mike | hi |
| 13:05:34 | Deb S | hi |
| 13:05:51 | TaraM | Kristina, I have a question about progesterone |
| 13:06:05 | TaraM | I read somewhere that progesterone therapy can thin out your hair? |
| 13:06:32 | michael b |
the best of autumn to you, kristina, and the rest of the chatters. |
| 13:06:45 | kristina | A person who is cleansing the colon frequently will be able to tell if it is beneficial or detrimental by seeing what the tissue levels of their minerals are over those past 3 months. |
| 13:06:53 | Deb S |
i have a thyroid problem and when that is out of whack my hair falls out |
| 13:07:00 | TaraM | oh ok |
| 13:07:01 | kristina | Thanks, Michael. It is absolutely gorgeous here. |
| 13:07:20 | TaraM | I haven't tested my thyroid function Deb |
| 13:07:24 | Marcy | Is there any natural way to treat rectal prolapse? |
| 13:08:00 | kristina |
Appropriate protein levels in the tissues, as determined by phosporus in the HTMA, are important to rebuild and regenerate the body. |
| 13:08:02 | Deb S |
I'm not a doctor but there are other signs of thyroid problems also |
| 13:08:26 | Deb S | perhaps I should come in for a visit Kristina |
| 13:08:35 | Deb S | hi Dave |
| 13:08:37 | kristina | Imbalanced levels of hormones can thin the hair. |
| 13:08:48 | Dave | Hi all |
| 13:08:51 | TaraM | hi |
| 13:08:54 | Mike | hi |
| 13:09:07 | TaraM | Well Kristina, my hair is only thin on one side, and I don't sleep on that side anymore |
| 13:09:26 | TaraM | it is thin around the front edge of the left side of my head |
| 13:09:30 | Deb S |
do you suggest saliva or blood work for hormones? |
| 13:09:38 | kristina | If your hair is thinning, we can correct that. We have lots of success with that issue. |
| 13:09:38 | TaraM | and it seems to be getting thinner by the week |
| 13:09:50 | kristina | Rectal prolapse |
| 13:10:04 | TaraM | I bought some hormone tests, I just need to do the saliva tests and turn them into the lab |
| 13:10:13 | michael b |
the feedback on the newest flu shots was great in the oct. newsletter. |
| 13:10:25 | Mike | tara, have you always had thin hair? |
| 13:10:34 | TaraM | No Mike, I hadn't |
| 13:10:43 | kristina |
Do you have full-thickness rectal prolapse where the entire rectum protrudes through the anus? |
| 13:10:44 | TaraM | my hair started thinning once I got anemic |
| 13:11:05 | Mike |
if you don't mind me asking , how old are you? |
| 13:11:16 | TaraM |
and then I had a hysterectomy and then it seems like that threw my hormones out of whack |
| 13:11:18 | TaraM | 38 |
| 13:11:20 | kristina |
or do you have mucosal prolapse where only the rectal mucosa (not the entire wall) prolapses? |
| 13:11:31 | Mike | wow, that's young to have these issues |
| 13:11:43 | Deb S | the same thing happened to me after my hysterectomy Tara |
| 13:11:45 | TaraM | that because I am post-menopausal now |
| 13:12:16 | TaraM |
now don't get me wrong, Deb and Mikeif you looked at my head you would think it is in my imagination that my hair is thinning |
| 13:12:23 | TaraM | :D |
| 13:12:34 | TaraM | but I know what it USED to look like |
| 13:12:42 | Mike | aha, just like my wife |
| 13:12:47 | TaraM | I still have a head full of hair |
| 13:12:50 | Deb S | I just had mine done that way. Also my HGH was checked because my skin is very loose and the test was over the chart |
| 13:12:59 | TaraM | but it is nowhere close to as full as it was before my hysterectomy |
| 13:13:37 | TaraM | but it is very real that my hair is thinning at the front edge on my left side |
| 13:13:42 | TaraM | but I can easily hide it right now |
| 13:14:03 | TaraM | but I feel self conscious when I pull it all the way back in a ponytail |
| 13:14:12 | kristina | Saliva because saliva shows the hormone levels available to the cells on a day-to-day basis. Blood shows the bound forms of the hormone. the body also keeps the blood homeostatic, meaning that levels of hormones are maintained and only fluctuate when hormone levels are VERY imbalanced. You will find hormone imbalances in the saliva before you find them in the blood, in other words. |
| 13:14:33 | TaraM | ok kristina, good to know |
| 13:14:41 | Mike | kristina, it seems that enemas have fallen out of favor...they used to be very common and a bag was always hanging in everyone's bathroom. Now, you almost cannot find equipment in a pharmacy....Why? |
| 13:14:54 | Deb S |
Kristina, I get hot flashes when I get stressed. Even when I don't know I am stressed |
| 13:14:56 | kristina | thank you, Michael. I worked hard on that. |
| 13:16:32 | Deb S |
What would be the best type of appointment for my fatigue, skin tone, and colon care? |
| 13:16:43 | Marcy | It must be mucosal prolapse because there is only a small amount is protruding. Kristina, do you have any products that could with this problem? |
| 13:17:18 | Mike | I used super salve that i found in health food store |
| 13:17:27 | TaraM |
kristina, what hormones do I need to test for to see if they are out of balance and could be affecting my hair thinning? |
| 13:17:29 | Mike | worked great |
| 13:17:42 | kristina |
Tara, look into our Female Hormone Panels. We do offer them but they are not currently viewable on our website. Here is some more information: |
| 13:17:45 | kristina |
The Female Hormone Panel (FHP)™ is a simple, non-invasive test. Eleven saliva samples are collected during specified time periods throughout a menstrual cycle. For the first time in routine medical practice, the FHP will allow both patient and doctor to view the profile of Estrogen and Progesterone (See Figure 1). In addition, we report the cycle average for Testosterone and DHEA. Diagnostic guesswork is minimized, and hormonal balance evaluation and customized treatment become a reality with the FHP. The expanded FHP™ (eFHPTM) also includes 5 follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinizing hormone (LH) measurements to see if both brain control and stimulation of the ovaries is optimal. Applications of the Female Hormone Panel The FHP can be used to detect and monitor the following: • Functional infertility • Premenstrual Syndrome (PMS) • Fibroids |
| 13:17:54 | kristina | • Influence of lifestyle (diet, exercise, etc.) on the hormone cycle • Menstrual problems originating in the brain’s systems • Early pregnancy problems - spontaneous miscarriage • Cycle irregularities following the use of birth control pills • Dysmenorrhea, i.e. painful and heavy periods • Migraine headaches • Endometriosis and cystic ovarian disease • Early Osteoporosis Advantages of the FHP™ |
| 13:18:04 | kristina |
1. Convenience: requires no blood draws, therefore no repeated clinic visits, and avoids the inconvenience of the 24-hour urine collection. 2. Customized Hormone Therapy Presently, female hormone therapy is not individualized to the needs of each woman because current diagnostic tests do not provide sufficient data. Consequently, most women are treated without regard to their individualized physiology and specific needs. The FHP, for the first time, will allow a clinician to customize therapy to each woman. |
| 13:18:14 | kristina |
3. As is typical in most clinics, one or two blood samples or a 24-hour analysis of urine for these hormones cannot give an idea of the ovaries' hormonal productivity. The FHP gives a good approximation of the ovaries’ capacity over a whole cycle. |
| 13:18:40 | TaraM |
cool... is there a button on here to email this chat conversation or do I need to copy and paste? |
| 13:18:54 | kristina |
We can get you cycling again, which at your age you want in order to optimize your health. |
| 13:19:07 | TaraM | yes I do |
| 13:19:20 | kristina | My screen just advanced so I lost the previous threads. Can you repost what I have missed? |
| 13:19:59 | kristina | The live chat will be posted on the website by tomorrow. You can also call us and we can talk with you and we have a brochure we can send out. |
| 13:20:21 | Deb S |
What type of appointment would I need with you to help with my fatique, constipation, pain, etc? |
| 13:20:26 | kristina |
the company we use to test the hormones is Diagnos-Techs |
| 13:20:52 | kristina | also, listen to the lecture on www.drjlang.com |
| 13:21:32 | kristina | The lecture by Dr. Janet Lang will help you to see what we do and to deepen your understanding of how to improve your hormone health. |
| 13:21:44 | kristina | Sorry that you have had all these troubles. Sounds hard. |
| 13:22:47 | kristina |
Deb, do you live close to the clinic? |
| 13:22:58 | Deb S | near Oconomowoc |
| 13:23:23 | michael b |
kristina, adding beets, red and gold, and carrots to help another benzene bather, to the juice of celery and cilantro is a real plus. |
| 13:23:34 | kristina | We could start with an appointment for colon hydrotherapy, if you wish. |
| 13:23:45 | Mike |
Is there anything that you can recommend for ED and enlarged prostate?...no cancer, been tested by urologist...nothing seems to help the ED |
| 13:24:16 | kristina |
Or, you could do a HTMA and/or saliva test. Both are the most useful to address your individual health, but we can start with one or the other. |
| 13:24:18 | Deb S |
I could do that. Would someone be able to answer questions? |
| 13:24:36 | kristina | Given the fatigue, I would recommend that if you choose one you choose the Adrenal Stress Index test. |
| 13:24:54 | Deb S | What does the test involve? |
| 13:24:58 | Marcy |
Again, there is only a small amount protruding so I believe it is mucosal. |
| 13:24:58 | kristina |
Tastes better or find it to be a better detox drink or both? |
| 13:25:39 | kristina |
Mike, the Male Hormone Panel that we test: Using a saliva sample, the regular Male Hormone Panel (MHP™) panel measures six hormones: DHEA, Androstenedione, Testosterone, Dihy-drotestosterone, Estrone, and Progesterone. The extended MH panel measures these six hormones plus FSH and LH. Traditionally, age-related male hormone changes were not considered problematic, because fertility in men persists until an advanced age. Recent studies and careful evaluation in men has shown progressive changes, including: |
| 13:25:48 | kristina |
Decreased muscle mass and strength; Decreased vigor and low energy; Decreased libido; Insomnia; Nervousness and Depression; Hair Loss |
| 13:26:01 | kristina | Diagnos-Techs' Male Hormone Panel provides valuable insight for physicians and their patients. Hormone imbalances and deficiencies can be discovered and treated, restoring a man’s life to a healthy state. |
| 13:26:08 | kristina | Again, call us up. |
| 13:26:40 | kristina | Also, if folks want to continue these conversations, we will just talk with you on the phone and we have an active Facebook page at Madison OHC |
| 13:27:10 | Deb S |
Is colonics and hydrotherapy the same? |
| 13:27:13 | kristina |
Yes, Deb, both DeeDee and I work with clients and we are both fully trained on these issues. |
| 13:27:25 | Mike |
i see my urologist again next week (also having a complete physical this week) - if things do not improve, I will call you |
| 13:27:28 | kristina | Yes, colonics and hydrotherapy are the same thing, colon hydrotherapy. |
| 13:27:35 | kristina | Great, Mike! |
| 13:27:45 | kristina | I certainly would love the opportunity to work with you. |
| 13:27:52 | kristina | You are a young man! |
| 13:28:04 | Mike | thanks |
| 13:28:25 | Deb S |
How can hemorrhoids be dealt with? Ouch! |
| 13:28:35 | Mike | are colonics and enemas equally as good for you? |
| 13:28:58 | kristina |
okay, so the prolaspse is mucosal |
| 13:29:18 | kristina | How far out is it protruding? |
| 13:29:47 | kristina |
With hemorrhoids, start with Super Salve |
| 13:30:07 | kristina | You will also need to make sure that you have a fully formed but soft bowel movement each day. |
| 13:30:31 | Deb S | That NEVER happens for me |
| 13:30:49 | kristina | Yes, colonics and enemas can offer the same therapeutic value, as long as the person giving the treatment knows how to clear out the entire colon |
| 13:30:56 | Marcy |
Kristina, I have had problems with constipation for most of my life, but now that I have this prolapse I don't have that problem any more. The prolapse bothers me though. It is protruding about an inch, but only when I have a BM. |
| 13:31:36 | kristina |
to learn more about colonics or colon hydrotherapy, go here on our website |
| 13:34:05 | kristina | okay, so we need to work on your bowel movements so they don't push the rectal area of your colon out of the anus. |
| 13:34:26 | kristina | Super salve is also an excellent place for you to start with the prolapse. |
| 13:34:36 | kristina | Put it on the anus when it is not protruding. |
| 13:34:47 | kristina | do you take enemas? |
| 13:34:54 | kristina | do they cause the prolapse at all? |
| 13:35:25 | kristina | Have I missed anything? |
| 13:36:41 | Marcy | Yes I do take enemas. I had a coffee enema not long ago. |
| 13:37:27 | kristina |
More on optimizing hormonal health: |
| 13:37:44 | kristina | and how we approach it: |
| 13:37:49 | kristina |
Wellness is the natural state. The human body is a powerful self-healing system that is designed to be well, to regenerate, and to thrive. Unfortunately, the past model of health care contradicts this truth. Illness and disease are misrepresented as the natural state and as the inevitable result of aging, rather than as the reflection of imbalance and a hindered regenerative process. The result of this disease management system has been catastrophic to the health of our general population. Generations are disconnected from their innate healing potential and believe they must survive in disease. |
| 13:37:52 | Marcy |
I do not think that the enema caused it. |
| 13:38:32 | kristina | we use testing methods to establish the individualized hormonal and metabolic pattern of a patient. One can then identify the most appropriate, effective, and least invasive method for restoring and sustaining endocrine balance. Provided with the proper physical and lifestyle support a person will respond rapidly, and normal endocrine function can return. |
| 13:38:34 | Deb S |
Okay, if it is natural and I don't want to live like this in my age, what can be done? |
| 13:39:00 | kristina | Primary testing methods include saliva testing and hair analysis, in addition to evaluating symptoms and lifestyle patterns. Protocols include lifestyle management, whole food nutritional supplements, high quality herbal supplements, and only when necessary, bioidentical hormone assistance therapy. |
| 13:39:13 | kristina | No, I don't necessarily think that the enemas caused it. |
| 13:39:18 | michael b |
mike, i think prostate gland removal was a real cash cow in the 1990s. i think that closer watching, rather than instant surgery, is more common now. |
| 13:39:43 | Deb S | Why not bio-identical hormones? |
| 13:39:44 | kristina | What I am wondering is does the prolapse occur after you release the enema solution and waste or just when you move your bowels on your own? |
| 13:39:55 | Mike | Kristina, they have no reason to remove mine...Its just BPH |
| 13:40:50 | kristina | Call us up, order the appropriate Hormone tests and we will recommend certain lifestyle management changes, whole food nutritional supplements, high quality herbal supplements, and when necessary, bioidentical hormone assistance therapy. |
| 13:41:01 | Mike | Just got a phone call...I have ro go, I'll read transcript if you have anything else to add..Thanks Kristina |
| 13:41:06 | Marcy | Just when I have a BM, and it seems to prevent a total elimination. |
| 13:41:07 | Mike | bye everyone |
| 13:41:11 | TaraM | kristina, could there be some internal medicinal reason why only the left side of my head is thinning if I sleep on my back and don't favor any side to sleep on? |
| 13:41:17 | TaraM | bye mike |
| 13:42:14 | kristina | Hormones are very powerful activators to all of the cells. |
| 13:42:39 | kristina | Hormones are treated as if they are supplements, which they absolutely are not. |
| 13:42:59 | kristina | Also, no one hormone is ever the problem or the solution. |
| 13:43:11 | kristina | Each and every hormone acts within a family of hormones. |
| 13:43:14 | Deb S | Unfortunately I have been on them for about 4 years when I thought I was gonna never get out of bed again. I was tested and my levels were none. |
| 13:43:40 | kristina | It is essential to address the whole family of hormones and then keep monitoring the body |
| 13:43:51 | Dave | Once men reach a certain age (over 70), even if they develop prostate cancer it grows so slowly that something else will be the cause of death. Younger guys are a different story. |
| 13:44:11 | kristina | If not done properly, bio identical hormones can dysregulate the entire system |
| 13:44:22 | TaraM |
Kristina, do herbal breast enhancement creams and pills really work? |
| 13:44:49 | kristina |
More is not necessarily better in hormoneland. Just the opposite. Excess hormones in the system can and will shut down the endocrine system. |
| 13:44:57 | Deb S | I had improved but never had any energy. But I was like that before I was even 25 |
| 13:45:32 | Deb S |
What can I do now because I do get checked very regularly |
| 13:45:49 | kristina | Might you take daily enemas while you work on your gut health with us? |
| 13:46:08 | Deb S | who is that for |
| 13:46:42 | kristina |
We never use hormone creams because it is impossible to dose them well. The cream gets on family members, pets, and other places it doesn't belong. |
| 13:47:56 | kristina | In my mind, a 70 year old man is young and needs to also work on the hormonal and toxic issues that caused the cancer in order to optimize his health |
| 13:48:20 | kristina | I am glad that you had those tools then. This is good. |
| 13:48:41 | kristina | more on saliva tests: |
| 13:48:58 | kristina |
Saliva tests for the "free" physiologically active form of the hormone. |
| 13:49:26 | Dave | Agreed, best to prevent in the first place. |
| 13:49:50 | kristina | Marcy |
| 13:49:53 | Deb S |
so that kit is different than the one I used to see the levels in the first place (4 tube kit) |
| 13:50:23 | kristina |
Deb, who did you test with? We do use multiple samples |
| 13:50:36 | Marcy |
Yes, I will do that, but I need some good ingredients for this purpose. |
| 13:50:47 | Deb S | ZRT |
| 13:51:28 | Marcy | What do you suggest? |
| 13:52:40 | kristina | Optimize your diet, use herbs and whole food supplements to rebuild the gut mucosa, use the appropriate probiotics. Might you start with us with a HTMA? |
| 13:52:41 | harolds |
All of our needs are different, and I am not a doctor, but for me enemas have been a lifetime benefit. My mom was a nurse, and I grew up in the era when most homes had an enema bag hanging on the back of the bathroom door, and enemas help provide good health |
| 13:52:51 | kristina | HTMA |
| 13:53:11 | kristina |
diet |
| 13:53:57 | kristina |
Ortho Mucosagen would be an example of one of the products we might use with you once we got to know you better |
| 13:54:42 | Deb S |
Is grapefruit extract beneficial for using in the water for an enema? |
| 13:54:56 | kristina |
Deb, the testing would be similar and if you have current results, within the last 3 months, we can work with the data on the ZRT test but we have chosen to go with the lab Diagnos-Techs |
| 13:55:18 | kristina |
Diagnos-Techs |
| 13:55:49 | Deb S |
I can call and make an appointment if needed to see what I should do unless the website you just posted is for me |
| 13:56:27 | kristina |
Hormone creams and gels build up in subcutaneous tissue and after several months or longer, depending on the fat cell content of the person will release excessive amounts of free, unbound hormone into the system. |
| 13:56:52 | kristina | the use of hormone creams and gels leads to progressive overdosing, triggering a host of increasing problems. |
| 13:57:19 | Deb S | Yikes! So hopw would we know this? By a certain test that you just spoke of or what? |
| 13:57:46 | kristina | Oral pills will be deactivated or mostly bound by the liver. This can both stress and overwork the liver over time. |
| 13:58:38 | Marcy | Thank you so much. You have been very helpful. I will be in touch! Bye for now! |
| 13:58:50 | kristina | Also, various nutrients or vitamins, minerals and phytonutrients are required to make hormones by the body. |
| 13:59:02 | michael b |
Dave, as you well know, us folks can do a lot to maintain better health, kinda why we are at this chat. |
| 13:59:11 | kristina | As well as to stimulate its release and facilitate its entry into cells. |
| 13:59:38 | kristina |
In other words, each hormone is completely dependent on a team of nutrients in order to function. |
| 13:59:39 | Deb S |
Can I ever have good hormones at my age without medication? |
| 14:00:46 | kristina | Thus the beauty of the HTMA. This will show us, to some degree, what nutrients are needed supplementally to optimize hormonal health. |
| 14:01:29 | kristina | Wow! This has been a fabulous chat. I must go. Sorry if I missed anyone's questions or comments. I look forward to more interaction over the phone, in person, on the next live chat and on Facebook! |
| 14:01:46 | harolds |
Bye Kristina |
| 14:01:49 | Deb S | Thanks and I will see you soon |
| 14:01:52 | kristina | Given the little I know about you, Deb, I would have to say YES! |
| 14:02:12 | michael b |
before i forget, happy halloween. |
| 14:03:19 | michael b |
stay warm, bye for now. |