| 20:02:36 |
Kristina |
Hello! |
| 20:02:53 | Alan D |
Hello all. |
| 20:03:13 | Clyde E. |
Evening. |
| 20:03:58 | Clyde E. | What is the subject for the evening? |
| 20:04:41 | Kristina |
Well, this isn't the topic, but I am just finishing listening to a YouTube video of Ray Bradbury talking about writing. Excellent! |
| 20:05:39 | Dave |
Hi all. |
| 20:05:45 | Alan D |
OK, any ideas on how a coffee enema would help a stage 4 liver? |
| 20:05:49 | Kristina | Have any of you had the chance to read our blog? |
| 20:06:24 | gewind48 |
I have enjoyed the first time I tried the enema with the essential oils and had the sensation you have after a mouth rinse, but I have a job with challenging hours to do this on a consistent basis. |
| 20:06:42 | Clyde E. |
No, Kristina. |
| 20:07:12 | Clyde E. | G: Which oils did you use? |
| 20:07:17 | Kristina |
If you go to our home page, you will find a link to a talk I give about how coffee enemas work. |
| 20:07:45 | Kristina |
Here is the link (MP3 file). |
| 20:08:03 | Alan D |
OK, thanks. |
| 20:08:28 | gewind48 |
I used all of the oils mentioned in the part of obtaining the oils and used 4 drops in a two quart bag. |
| 20:09:32 | Kristina | Coffee enemas improve liver function. |
| 20:10:09 | Dave | DeeDee said in last chat that externally applying essential oils gave great and fast relief for bloating and stomach ache. Should this be followed by enema/colonic use of oils or need not? |
| 20:11:01 | howard |
I also used 6 drops in 4 quarts and it worked just fine. I lay in a tub of hot water, which I find it easier to take the two plus one coffee. |
| 20:11:10 | Kristina | Coffee enemas improve the detoxification capacities of the liver by increasing the activity of a family of enzymes called glutathione S-transferase by as much as 700%. |
| 20:11:24 | Kristina | Coffee enemas increase bile flow. |
| 20:11:36 | Kristina | Coffee enemas improve kidney function. |
| 20:11:46 | deb s | Hi, Kristina, do you believe one might need to exercise caution in the number per week? |
| 20:12:23 | Alan D | Will it help to lower other enzymes levels? |
| 20:13:16 | gewind48 |
My one problem was holding the enema in my bowels for the 15 minute period without an inflatable nozzle and need to purchase one, but will have to wait until after Christmas. |
| 20:13:59 | Kristina |
Glutathione S-transferase are essential for the immune system to exert its full potential. |
| 20:14:01 | Alan D |
They do work great, especially the double ones. |
| 20:14:10 | deb s |
Seems I'm flushing contents from small intestine and so concerned about absorbing nutrients. |
| 20:15:12 | Kristina | GST detoxifies xenobiotics (foreign compounds) and carcinogens, both organic and inorganic. |
| 20:15:52 | Kristina | It is not possible to flush the contents of the small intestines using an enema. |
| 20:16:08 | Kristina | Can you say why you think this is happening, Deb? |
| 20:18:15 | Don G |
Why don't more CT's offer enemas? |
| 20:18:21 | Kristina |
How much colon cleansing you do week to week, month to month, year to year will vary, depending on your goals, your diet, your response to the colon cleansing, what solutions you use in the cleanse, and more. |
| 20:19:19 | Kristina | Other colon hydrotherapists haven't been encouraged around or education about the enema. |
| 20:20:21 | Don G |
Does I-ACT discourage enemas? |
| 20:20:31 | gewind48 |
I would like to do more colon cleansing, but being on the road has its challenges. I feel much better after just the first time. |
| 20:20:42 | howard |
I do the routine every other day. |
| 20:21:19 | Dave | Don't think many CT schools encourage enemas, frankly. Competition? |
| 20:22:24 | Kristina |
The training that colon therapists undergo is specific to Class II and Class III devices, which are "designed to allow evacuation of the contents of the colon during the administration of the colonic irrigation." |
| 20:22:43 | Kristina |
I spoke at a regional meeting two months ago. |
| 20:23:19 | deb s |
Here is the reason I thought small intestine contents were coming out. I thought the coffee stimulated the gallbladder to squirt bile, and that goes into the SI. But more than that, the feces are sometimes very small, sometimes with undigested seeds/fiber. |
| 20:23:26 | Kristina | Many colon hydrotherapists are in favor of recommending enemas to their clients. |
| 20:23:41 | Kristina | Excellent, gewind48! |
| 20:24:03 | Clyde E. |
I travelled 22 weeks straight. The first thing when I arrived at a hotel on Sunday evening was to set up and do a colon cleanse so I would be ready for Monday morning. |
| 20:24:40 | deb s |
Cool, travel enemas :) |
| 20:24:51 | Kristina | If you want to take an enema, but feel you don't have time in your day, fill a bulb syringe with filtered water and essential oils. |
| 20:25:14 | Kristina | When the treatment needs to be quick, the bulb syringe and the oils can make a big difference. |
| 20:25:17 | Dave | I know some advise pee-session enema at home if impacted to make colonic more effective. |
| 20:25:45 | Kristina |
Oils. The Optimal Health Center has done a lot of research on what essential oils can be beneficial in the colon. |
| 20:26:00 | gewind48 |
If I could stay in a motel/hotel, I would carry my items with me, but I travel and sleep in an eighteen wheeler and it's not possible to carry the items I need. |
| 20:26:10 | Alan D |
Any suggestions on oils or soaps to use in an enema for someone whose bowels do not work any more? |
| 20:26:15 | Kristina | Also, we have developed a self-testing method to determine which oils are best for you at any given moment. |
| 20:26:42 | Kristina | I see your point! |
| 20:26:52 | Clyde E. |
An 18 wheeler would offer challenges for sure. |
| 20:27:28 | Clyde E. |
Kris, is this test available on the web? |
| 20:28:49 | Kristina |
We recommend that you start with frankincense, lemon, lavender, peppermint, as well as the blends Purification, PanAway, Peace & Calming, Thieves and Valor. |
| 20:29:10 | Kristina | The test is free and written up on the website. You just need a collection of essential oils. |
| 20:29:25 | Alan D |
Great, I have 3 of those. |
| 20:30:03 | Kristina | Has anyone here tried Essential Oil Body Feedback yet? |
| 20:30:09 | gewind48 |
I have five of the oils and will be interested in the test. |
| 20:30:21 | Alan D |
No I have not. |
| 20:30:28 | howard |
Signing off - Merry Chistmas and a Happy Hanukkah. |
| 20:30:46 | Kristina |
Pre-colon hydrotherapy session enema at home before you visit the therapist. |
| 20:30:51 | Alan D |
I assume I should take an enema every day for best results? |
| 20:30:52 | Kristina | Yes, they do. |
| 20:31:08 | Kristina | You remind me of the movie, 127 Hours. I recommend it. |
| 20:31:18 | Kristina | Bye Howard. Thanks for being here. |
| 20:31:35 | Kristina | Not, necessarily, Alan. |
| 20:31:41 | Don G |
Kris, in August 2006 in a chatroom you suggested a value in a prostate massage. In September you changed your mind. Why? |
| 20:32:00 | Alan D |
Oh OK. |
| 20:32:20 | Kristina | The Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis is the best tool to determine enema frequency for each person. |
| 20:32:28 | deb s |
Oh. |
| 20:32:53 | Dave | Know it's been advised to me by CTs who otherwise don't give enemas. |
| 20:33:28 | Kristina |
Some people benefit tremendously with daily enemas - people with cancer, constipation, fibromyalgia, etc., and those who are detoxifying. |
| 20:34:28 | Alan D |
< Has chronic constipation. |
| 20:34:57 | Kristina | It is best if the bowels empty fully each and every day. |
| 20:35:41 | deb s |
This is my first chat. Glad to be with people appreciating benefits. So many people I know are, omg! |
| 20:35:51 | Alan D |
Mine will go 8 to 10 days. Nothing is done to make them function. |
| 20:35:52 | Kristina |
Learn how to test which essential oils to use on yourself |
| 20:36:05 | Kristina | Yikes! |
| 20:36:07 | gewind48 | Wow, this would remove 10 pounds in a few minutes? |
| 20:36:11 | Kristina | This is no good. |
| 20:36:36 | Kristina | Alan, it is much healthier to take the daily enema to keep your bowels moving. |
| 20:37:08 | deb s |
I have used glycerin suppository when constipated if no time for enema. Now logging out in a few - will be back next time. |
| 20:37:28 | Alan D |
I have been taking Miralax but it's too unpredictable for me. |
| 20:38:13 | deb s |
For me, the glycerin suppository works quickly, then it's over. Usually one does the trick; sometimes takes two suppositories together. |
| 20:38:44 | deb s |
I don't know about 8-10 days. Yikes. |
| 20:39:10 | Alan D |
I ended up in the ER after 10 days. |
| 20:39:40 | gewind48 | I'll keep the glycerin suppository in mind if needed, but so far I am able to control with diet. |
| 20:39:45 | Kristina | When did this happen, Alan? |
| 20:39:51 | Kristina | How did you come to use enemas? |
| 20:40:05 | Alan D |
About 6 months ago. |
| 20:40:08 | Kristina | How long had your constipation been going on? |
| 20:40:26 | Kristina | Welcome, Tomiowa. |
| 20:40:41 | Alan D |
Constipation has been a problem for over 5 years. |
| 20:40:45 | tomiowa |
Hello all. Finally got page up. |
| 20:40:51 | Kristina | Yeah! |
| 20:41:10 | tomiowa |
It's snowing in Michigan tonight. |
| 20:41:29 | Alan D |
They gave an enema with soap in the hospital, so if it works there, it should work at home. |
| 20:41:43 | Kristina |
Glycerin suppositories are a fine tool, but they only clear out the lower colon so you don't want to rely on them solely, as the ascending and transverse colon need to be cleared also. |
| 20:41:47 | Kristina | Nice. |
| 20:42:09 | tomiowa |
Did the hospital use a nozzle or colon tube? |
| 20:42:12 | Kristina | How do you feel overall now that you take regular enemas? |
| 20:42:38 | Alan D |
My constipation and liver problems are from taking Oxycontin for many years. |
| 20:42:56 | Kristina |
Why do you take Oxycontin? |
| 20:43:24 | Alan D |
Must have been a tube - they forced it through the transverse colon. |
| 20:43:36 | Alan D |
Chronic back pain. |
| 20:44:13 | Alan D |
Plus nerve deadeners, anti-inflammatories. |
| 20:45:13 | Kristina | In addition to clearing the entire colon with the large volume enema, the enema solution used is ideally therapeutic to the body and not just irritating to the colon, like glycerin. |
| 20:45:23 | Kristina | Sorry. |
| 20:45:49 | Kristina | Has your back pain diminished with regular use of the colon cleanse? |
| 20:46:50 | tomiowa |
The goat's milk soap has really worked well for me. |
| 20:46:56 | Alan D |
No, but have not been taking enemas on a regular schedule.... I am ready to start doing that now. |
| 20:47:23 | Kristina |
Any questions to get yourself set up? |
| 20:47:35 | Kristina | I have worked with many people who take daily enemas to great benefit. |
| 20:47:57 | Alan D |
I have all I need - 4 qt silicone bag, soaps, peppermint, lavender, speculum, double bardex. |
| 20:48:04 | Kristina | Without knowing more about you, it is likely that the daily enema will improve your health. |
| 20:48:12 | Kristina | Excellent. |
| 20:49:21 | Alan D |
Pain is from industrial accident - I backed into a running paint shaker.... left me with twisted muscles, nerve damage, and a herniated disc t8-t9. |
| 20:49:43 | Kristina |
Back to the coffee enema. There is a lovely little documentary called The Gerson Miracle about Max Gerson. |
| 20:49:48 | tomiowa |
I find the colon tube more effective than the nozzle system over several sessions. |
| 20:49:58 | Kristina | It details the history of the coffee enema. |
| 20:50:13 | Kristina |
Ouch... |
| 20:50:16 | Alan D |
I am hoping that a daily enema will take care of constipation and maybe let me shed a few pounds. |
| 20:50:24 | Kristina | I bet it will. |
| 20:50:38 | Kristina | How did you find the Optimal Health Network? |
| 20:51:08 | Alan D |
Oh and I have a colon tube, one of your larger ones, 4 ft. |
| 20:51:18 | Kristina | Max Gerson led an interesting life. |
| 20:51:23 | Alan D |
Web search for constipation. |
| 20:51:30 | Dave |
Where is the Gerson documentary available? |
| 20:51:44 | Kristina |
I watched the documentary on Netflix. [also see link above] |
| 20:51:54 | Clyde E. |
Kris, the small inflatable colon tube has been great because it goes further up into the colon and is easier to retain when irrigating the colon. Great investment. |
| 20:52:17 | Dave |
Thanks. |
| 20:52:48 | Kristina |
It shares the stories of nine long-time cancer survivors who have used the principles of the Gerson Therapy. |
| 20:53:12 | gewind48 |
Bye, I have to exit. Will look for your next chat. |
| 20:53:22 | Kristina | Dr. Gerson developed his therapy in 1928. |
| 20:54:17 | Kristina | Gerson's daughter, Charolette, founder of the Gerson Institute, also shares her fight to keep the controversial therapy. |
| 20:54:35 | Alan D |
Oh, when I use the speculum I put it in on my side. When I roll onto my back it falls out. Any ideas? |
| 20:54:39 | Kristina | Thanks fo that feedback, Clyde. |
| 20:55:02 | Dave |
Done anywhere in US? Heard it was in Mexico. |
| 20:55:14 | Kristina |
What speculum are you referring to? |
| 20:56:10 | Alan D |
I have a hard plastic one with the center insert. |
| 20:56:26 | Kristina |
Next live chat with DeeDee is on Wednesday, December 22nd at 12 noon CT. |
| 20:57:03 | Alan D |
I am trying to make a set-up of colon irrigation at home. |
| 20:57:07 | Kristina | I would use a larger nozzle - Extra Large Green Nozzle is a great choice. |
| 20:57:32 | Kristina | The flexible inflatable nozzle is also a good choice. |
| 20:57:39 | Kristina | Yes, in Mexico. |
| 20:57:46 | Alan D |
The one I have is large but no shoulder to help it stay in. |
| 20:58:03 | Kristina |
Needs a shoulder. |
| 20:58:15 | Alan D |
OK thanks. |
| 20:58:21 | Dave | Pinkish flex nozzle from OHC works well for me too. |
| 20:59:10 | Alan D |
The one I have would be close to what they use in colon therapy. |
| 20:59:18 | tomiowa |
The flex nozzle with inflatable bladder pink is good for a basic nozzle. |
| 20:59:52 | Kristina | Thanks so much for visiting with me tonight. I need to run now. Take care! |
| 20:59:59 | tomiowa |
Bye. |
| 21:00:05 | Alan D |
Bye. Thanks, Kristina |
| 21:00:11 | Dave |
Be well, all. |
