| 16:54:45 | billy_the_kid | Hi there |
| 16:55:53 | kristina |
Hi Folks. I hope everyone is doing well. Please go ahead and post your questions, comments, thoughts and more. |
| 16:57:15 | Robe |
The soft flexible tip nozzle of the Flowmaster Cleaning System keeps popping out of the hose - any suggestions? |
| 16:58:25 | billy_the_kid |
Cut back some of the hose. It may have become too stretched. |
| 16:58:49 | Dave | Congomoto, a good idea is to check the chat archives to see how we keep things light but on track. |
| 16:59:01 | bbholl | hello |
| 16:59:20 | Dave | Welcome newbies. |
| 16:59:27 | Robe | Thanks for the suggestion, the hose is brand new . |
| 16:59:28 | Lisa | Hello Everyone! |
| 16:59:44 | bbholl | Thanks, I was finally able to make it. |
| 16:59:55 | bbholl | this is my first time on the chat |
| 17:00:10 | Dave | yes, time is tough for many. |
| 17:00:49 | Robe | Would like to understand the instructions on using Celtic sea salt. Do I use 3 tsp (as printed in your instruction sheet) or 1 tsp or 1/2 tsp? |
| 17:01:09 | Dave | Any great topics to pose tonight? |
| 17:01:34 | Lisa | I use one tea spoon of sea salt per quart |
| 17:01:40 | billy_the_kid | one teaspoon per quart |
| 17:02:05 | bbholl | I've read that I should put some lemon juice in my enema water. Does that work? |
| 17:02:07 | kristina | Yes, I recommend one tsp of Celtic sea salt per quart of water. |
| 17:02:09 | Robe | Do you use the mint oil drops with it? |
| 17:02:22 | kristina |
One of the topics that I want to bring up is prostate massage. |
| 17:02:24 | kristina | Traditionally, doctors would massage their patients' prostates regularly to cure or prevent disease. Now, however, most doctors only check the prostate, and if they find a problem prefer to cut it out or prescribe medication. But a doctor is not necessarily required for prostate massage. You can do it yourself or have your partner do it for you. Try this practice and discover its health benefits. When you do it yourself, you can be very gentle and make the treatment pleasurable as well as efficacious. |
| 17:02:48 | kristina | Anyone tried this? I have worked with a few clients here at the OHC to great benefit. |
| 17:02:49 | bbholl |
how do I do it myself? |
| 17:03:04 | Lisa |
Yes, use peppermint oil with the sea salt |
| 17:03:06 | bbholl | I've read about thise |
| 17:03:18 | bbholl | this, sorry! :) |
| 17:03:30 | Dave |
yes, Kristina, the visual check is a gloved finger in and out pretty fast. |
| 17:03:36 | billy_the_kid |
My experience with prostate massage over the years would make me think it is way to painful to self do. |
| 17:04:00 | bbholl | I read several negatives about prostate massage |
| 17:04:31 | bbholl |
something about you can damage the prostate...has anyone else heard this? |
| 17:04:37 | kristina |
Only use a high quality sea salt, like Celtic sea salt, and a high quality essential oil, like Starwest |
| 17:05:30 | billy_the_kid |
The doctors who did it to me did not mess around. They were rough. Atraditional prostate massage done by a doctor is very, very painful. |
| 17:05:32 | kristina | Here is one story: |
| 17:05:38 | Robe | Is Starwest the mint oil that is one of your products? |
| 17:05:47 | kristina |
I developed a severe case of prostatitis following a prostate biopsy. The biopsy was negative for cancer, but left me in severe pain. My PSA was ever so slightly elevated, so my HMO insisted on a biopsy. If I'd known then what I know now about the prostate, I would *never* have let them near me with that needle, at least, not at this time. I've never had prostatitis before. The condition was definitely precipitated by the biopsy. After four months of varying agony, and no help to speak of from two different HMO docs (who both recommended 6 months of Cipro, which I refused), and no help from a private urologist I consulted, who wanted to biopsy my bladder, after Levaquin treatment failed (just what I needed, another invasive treatment)...I went for 6 weeks without any drugs (other than Motrin, and Urol-Q, which I believe did actually reduce the inflammation somewhat). Then, I went to Dr. Zeitlin--who worked with Dr. Shoskes when both were at UCLA--who gave me an *extremely* vigorous prostate massage and drainage. He took a 5-day culture of prostate fluid. No pathogen was found. During that initial visit, Dr. Zeitlin had to massage my gland *twice* to get the fluid out, and I think this accellerated my improvement. I felt much improved (say, 60% better) one week after the massage. I went back for a second massage one week later. It was painful, but he did drain more fluid...and today, one week later, I feel about 85% improved. |
| 17:06:05 | Dave |
The prostate has been called the male G-spot. And when's the last time we heard that term, assuming G-spots still exist, LOL? |
| 17:07:05 | kristina | Some people have a psychological block against examining or massaging their prostates. They think the anus is dirty. But there is nothing dirty about the body, which must be cared for. The only thing that might be considered dirty is disease; and these practices are intended to prevent and cure disease through regular care for the entire body, including the anus and prostate. |
| 17:07:11 | Lisa |
Yes, Starwest is one of the products that OHN sells. I use it and it's great! |
| 17:08:28 | Dave |
Yes, Kristina, many guys have issues with rectal exams. Maybe some, but surely not most, from enemas as little boys. |
| 17:08:38 | kristina | This is why having a prostate massage immediately after taking an enema series could be so beneficial. Men deserve to have access to high quality prostate massages. |
| 17:09:10 | Robe | I once read that the enema bag should not be suspended higher than 3-4 ft. Your suggestion to hang it on the shower head seems much higher and the water would flow very fast. Any suggestions? |
| 17:09:25 | kristina | Prostate cancer is the most common form of cancer, other than skin cancer, among men in the United States, and it is second only to lung cancer as a cause of cancer-related death among men. |
| 17:09:45 | bbholl |
do you recommend any sites explaining how to perform self prostate massages? |
| 17:10:15 | kristina | I have learned over time that the number one factor in giving oneself a successful colon cleanse using an enema is the enema hosing clamp. |
| 17:11:05 |
Elsie |
Kristina, Elsie here. |
| 17:11:05 |
Elsie |
Kristina, Elsie here. Last month you suggested getting your thyroid checked and try not to take synthroid if prescribed. Having been diagnosed almost 19 years ago with a hypoactive thryroid, I've been taking synthroid or similar drug ever since. |
| 17:11:17 | Lisa | Robe, if you have a long enough hose, hanging it on a shower head works very well. I have a long hose, and I hang mine on the shower head all the time. |
| 17:11:36 | Elsie | What do you suggest as an alternative? |
| 17:12:35 | kristina | By opening the enema hosing clamp for 1-5 seconds, then clamping it again for 10-60 seconds, then opening it again for 1-5 seconds, the water flow will be gentle enough even if the bag is hung a bit higher than 3-4 feet. |
| 17:13:12 | kristina | Armour thyroid is a better choice. |
| 17:14:12 | kristina | And, I also work with folks to set up a diet that is therapeutic to both the thyroid and the liver, which plays a key role in optimal thyroid functioning. |
| 17:14:33 | Robe | On my back, looking towards my legs, is my colon towards my right side or my left? |
| 17:14:49 | kristina | An excess of estrogen also plays a role in thyroid health. |
| 17:15:03 | Elsie |
Kind of went that route 17 months ago and got burned by the practitioner - am verrrrrry leery of trusting anyone else at this point. |
| 17:15:04 | bbholl | Is it actually possible to feel for impacted areas in my colon? |
| 17:15:17 | kristina | I will often recommend a person only eats animal protein that comes from hormone free animals that are grass fed. |
| 17:15:20 | Dave |
Docs feel for roughness in the surface of the prostate as well as enlargement. |
| 17:15:31 | sawdis | reminder: don't forget the text colors (far left icon) |
| 17:15:40 | kristina | Additionally, I will sometimes recommend a progesterone product that is in a vitamin E solution and is put on the gums. |
| 17:15:41 | bbholl | I think it should go toward your left, Robe. |
| 17:16:13 | kristina |
I also find that the hormone pregnenolone can assist the body to heal more fully and age more gracefully. |
| 17:16:15 | Robe | thanks bbholl |
| 17:16:32 | bbholl | welcome! :) |
| 17:16:49 | Robe |
is pregnenolone bio identical? |
| 17:16:50 | kristina |
I understand. How is your health now? Please feel free to go into detail. |
| 17:17:07 | sawdis |
I checked for grass fed meat at my health store and there were none! they had organic meat and everything but grain fed. |
| 17:17:25 | billy_the_kid |
A rectal exam is one thing. A prostate massage is quite another |
| 17:17:34 | sawdis | and just like you said in your book they were charging twice as much |
| 17:18:03 | Elsie | I don't think estrogen at this point is a problem as I've had breast cancer, surgically removed and radiation. Am now on arimidex to stop the production of estrogen as the cancer was estrogen receptor positive. |
| 17:18:14 | kristina | The colon is an upside down U on the belly. |
| 17:18:41 | kristina | The ascending colon goes up the right side from about the hip bone to just below the rib cage. |
| 17:19:14 | kristina | Then we have the transverse colon which goes across the belly, just below the rib cage. |
| 17:19:52 | kristina | Then, down the left side, we have the descending colon, which connects on the bottom left side and towards the back with the sigmoid and rectal areas of the colon. |
| 17:20:36 | bbholl | So, in Robe's position, the colon should go toward your head, to your left, then down to your legs, right? |
| 17:20:48 | kristina |
Pregnenolone is the ultimate parent steroid compound. All steroid hormones in the body (including cortisone, testosterone, estrogen, progesterone, DHEA, and others) are produced from pregnenolone. |
| 17:21:15 | kristina | It can only be supplemented in a synthetic form. |
| 17:21:26 | kristina | Yes. |
| 17:21:39 | bbholl | Thanks! |
| 17:21:52 | Robe | I never thought about the internal life that exists and must be addressed and taken care of. So glad that my real education began after reading Dr. Jensen's book. |
| 17:22:26 | kristina | Yes, Dr. Jensen's book, Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Management, has been a godsend to all of us. |
| 17:22:52 | kristina | His work, in so many ways, is the work that has brought colon cleansing to many of us. |
| 17:22:57 | Dave |
Billy, as Kristina said, massage is best done at home, lol. Closest I got was when a now-retired colon therapist of mine - went up very high with Vitamin E cream as a lubricant/therapy product. |
| 17:23:40 | Robe | Can one benefit also by just using water in the enema bag? |
| 17:23:56 | bbholl |
What lubricants are best for enema nozzles? |
| 17:24:31 | Lisa |
Super Salve works great on nozzles! |
| 17:24:46 | bbholl | Where can I find it? |
| 17:24:51 | kristina | Besides the rate of prostate cancer, the other reason that I bring up the prostate and prostate massage is because I noticed many people are searching for the term on the internet. Given that I do colon cleansing here at my clinic, I wanted to survey folks to see if it was a service that they are looking for. There is a successful history of using prostate massage to optimize men's health. |
| 17:24:56 | Lisa | OHN has it. |
| 17:25:46 | bbholl | Thanks. Any others. I've used soap before. Was that a bad idea? |
| 17:26:04 | kristina | Even so, Elsie, it sounds as if you are looking to optimize your health, yeah? How are you feeling these days? What are you doing? |
| 17:26:37 | kristina |
Super Salve |
| 17:26:45 | Robe |
Speaking of high cholesterol...I just lowered mine from 326 to 219 by using Solarcare's Red Rice Yeast with coq10 and Lecithin |
| 17:27:16 | kristina | Yes, given one of the main goals with enemas is to simply cleanse the colon, a high quality water works well. |
| 17:27:19 | bbholl | What's that red rice yeast? |
| 17:27:44 | Robe | I use un-petroleum Jelly by Plant Powered Health Care in tubes. Fabulous! |
| 17:27:52 | bbholl | Is a filter like Pur fine for enema water? |
| 17:27:55 | Lisa |
Robe, just water can be good. I used to only use water, but now I like to use the goat milk soap or the peppermint oil and sea salt. Be sure you use filtered water. OHN has a filtered shower head. I have one and like it a lot. Filtered water is much safer . |
| 17:27:58 | sawdis | i found some really good water just recently. my acid reflux went away but my psychiatrist (know it all) thinks it's the placebo effect |
| 17:28:09 | kristina |
Some people find they need more than water and use therapeutic soaps like Dr. Bronner's or our goat's milk soaps that we designed for enema use |
| 17:28:19 | Elsie |
Trying to eat raw as close to 80-20, not doing well with that, going to a ND, chiropractor, massage therapist and colon hydrotherapist. I'm so into what I got introduced to and "abandoned" before I had a real handle on it, that I went to school and became |
| 17:28:33 | kristina | but many only need water to cleanse the entire colon, cecum to rectum. |
| 17:28:58 | sawdis | I found reverse osmosis and ozonated water that is only partially demineralized |
| 17:29:19 | Dave | I think there would be a good market for it, Kristina, especially if warning signs of trouble can be detected at the same time. A nice idea for those who can't get this elsewhere for whatever reason. |
| 17:29:38 | Robe | Check out Red Rice Yeast on the web. All of the med. info is there. |
| 17:30:00 | Elsie | a colon hydrotherapist myself. Have been looking for a place to go into business for myself and/or someone that is hiring (that's a laugh) There are only 2 other therapists in my area. Am going to check out a cancer hospital as soon as I get my health. |
| 17:30:00 | kristina | Thanks, Dave. Are any of the men on this board currently being offered prostate massage by any of their health care practitioners? |
| 17:30:28 | kristina | Congratulations! |
| 17:30:31 | kristina | Where do you live? |
| 17:31:06 | kristina |
We d o offer enemas as a service. You would be amazed at how many folks would rather be given an enema than have a colon hydrotherapy session. |
| 17:31:19 | bbholl | Not me. That's why I'm asking about self massage. |
| 17:31:50 | Elsie | Who are you asking? If it's Elsie, I live in southern Maine. I can't believe that, to me an enema is painful compared to colon hydrotherapy. |
| 17:32:00 | bbholl | I wish I could make an appointment with you, Kristina. The only problem is that I live over 7 hours away! There are so few options where I live. |
| 17:32:02 | kristina | It is important that men examine themselves often by checking the condition of their prostates. You can determine the condition of the prostate by feeling for changes in size and resilience. Check this as often as possible, at least weekly, and you will be able to establish a standard for yourself. By doing so, you will be able to detect any changes in the size and flexibility of your prostate. A very hard, enlarged, or painful prostate is an indication of a disorder that could lead to cancer or some other major problem. However, prostate disorders do not develop overnight, and regular massage can prevent and reverse problems. |
| 17:32:35 | billy_the_kid | I may be wrong, Kristina, but in the past doctors would massage the prostate to drain it |
| 17:32:36 | kristina | As far as how, as long as you can reach inside your anus, you can massage your prostate. |
| 17:32:58 | sawdis |
Kristina, that link you gave me to distilled water on Mercola's site says demineralized water sucks minerals out of the body as well as detoxing, but causes early death with continuous use due to the mineral loss. But Aquafina is demineralized! |
| 17:32:59 | kristina | Yes, this is true but is no longer offered as a general service, if I have my facts right. |
| 17:33:16 | Robe | This is fantastic, my first time in a chat room. Who would ever believe that it would be about enemas? |
| 17:33:16 | kristina | Lisa, do you want to say anything at this point about our posssible meeting in 2007? |
| 17:33:25 | billy_the_kid |
when the patient was suffering from acute prostatitis. |
| 17:33:45 | bbholl | Same here, Robe! :) |
| 17:33:54 | kristina | I am very pleased to have you here, Robe. Yes, we talk about enemas a lot. Are you aware of our enema forum? |
| 17:34:12 | Lisa | bbholl, please go over to our message board. I am getting a meeting together, and people from all over the country will be there. You can read the details on the message board. |
| 17:34:18 | billy_the_kid |
They don't do it much anymore because of the high powered anti-biotics and some known cases of injury to the prostate from a too aggresive massage |
| 17:34:30 | Robe | No, can you explain it to me (us) |
| 17:36:34 | Elsie | Robe, I know exactly how you feel. This my first time in a chat room as well. |
| 17:36:51 | kristina | Southern Maine, it must be beautiful there. Yes, I have many people who come to my clinic for an enema. |
| 17:37:15 | bbholl | What do mean about the message board, Lisa? Sorry, I rarely do chats. |
| 17:37:18 | Dave |
Kristina, the only therapist who ever "fingered" me rectally was the retired one. One even said it was against the law for finger and anus to touch - wrong I think, and she had an open system so she didn't have to even see anything. |
| 17:37:25 | Elsie | Beautiful if you don't mold first. Have had a lot of rain this year. |
| 17:37:26 | kristina | Maybe you took the water in too quickly when you took your enema, Elsie, as an enema is usually not painful. |
| 17:37:58 | kristina | Funny. |
| 17:38:11 | Lisa | The message board is our enema forum. We just call it different things! |
| 17:38:18 | kristina | Are there many alternative health practitioners in your area? |
| 17:38:30 | bbholl | Oh. :) |
| 17:38:45 | kristina | Oh yeah, sorry about that confusion. |
| 17:39:41 | bbholl | Are you talking to me, Kristina? |
| 17:40:07 | Robe |
What a national connection this is. I am writing from Los Angeles. No one speaks of enemas here. In fact you cannot find an enema bag that works correctly in a pharmacy any more. Not enough people purchasing them. Its as though it is an endangered species. |
| 17:40:30 | Elsie |
Tried following your video All About Enemas. And yeah, probably took the water in too fast, but I'm not a patient person when it comes to my on the receiving end. All kinds of patience when it comes to clients. |
| 17:40:48 | sawdis | funny since in the movie LA Story Steve Martin gets an enema |
| 17:40:49 | bbholl | I can't find them in stores myself either. I only find the fleet kind. |
| 17:41:18 | Robe | The fleet kind is full of chemicals. Yuk! |
| 17:41:23 | Elsie | Can't get them here in Maine either, Robe. I've tried and that's how I found OHN in the first place. |
| 17:41:26 | bbholl | Agreed! |
| 17:41:34 | sawdis | in fact that's the first time I heard of them was that movie |
| 17:41:42 | Robe | Me too Elsie |
| 17:41:56 | Lisa |
I think in LA Story, they go in for a colonic. From what I heard, colonics are popular in CA, but not enemas. |
| 17:41:58 | bbholl | Same here! I found OHN during my enema research a couple of years ago. |
| 17:42:07 | kristina | The American Cancer Society (ACS) estimates that during 2006 about 234,460 new cases of prostate cancer will be diagnosed in the United States. About 1 man in 6 will be diagnosed with prostate cancer during his lifetime, but only 1 man in 34 in the US population will die of this disease. A little over 1.8 million men in the United States are survivors of prostate cancer. Prostate cancer is a leading cause of cancer death in American men. The American Cancer Society estimates that 27,350 men in the United States will die of prostate cancer during 2006. Prostate cancer accounts for about 9% of cancer-related deaths in men. |
| 17:42:11 | bbholl | Great site, Kristina! |
| 17:42:14 | Mike_K |
I live near San Diego and almost all drug stores carry open and close enema bags - you just have to look for them |
| 17:42:32 | bbholl | I kept finding all the bad stuff until I found OHN. |
| 17:42:59 | kristina | Thank you. |
| 17:43:04 | Robe | Most of the bags have plastic tops and therefore cannot be used as a hot water bottle. |
| 17:43:24 | kristina |
This is exactly how I got started. I met a man who had been hit by a car and when he came out of his coma, his colon no longer worked. |
| 17:43:58 | Lisa |
Enema bags, I think, are hard to find just about any place. I could not find one enema bag in Italy! |
| 17:44:11 | rrodamer |
Kristina, do coffee enemas have a preventative effect? |
| 17:44:14 | Mike_K | Kristina sells a great quality combination douche enema and hot-water bottle system |
| 17:44:49 | kristina | He went to many doctors to have help with his chronic constipation. |
| 17:44:52 | Robe | What a family of people I have found, can't wait until we meet again. |
| 17:44:52 | clayface | hi, folks! :) |
| 17:44:57 | sawdis | hey clay |
| 17:44:57 | bbholl | What's the title on the forum, Lisa? |
| 17:45:03 | clayface | hi, saw |
| 17:45:13 | bbholl | Indeed! |
| 17:45:14 | kristina | Finally, he found a doctor that told him that chemical laxatives will destroy the colon and that he needed to take a daily enema instead. |
| 17:45:14 | sawdis | full house today :) |
| 17:45:15 | clayface |
i'm glad I made the end of the chat |
| 17:45:31 | gayle |
Kristina, I saw a health care practitioner yesterday who told me that too many enemas or colonics gets your colon too "squeaky clean" and causes colon cancer. I disagreed. Do you hear that a lot? |
| 17:45:32 | Robe | In Italy I found one that was so tiny, I eventually threw it away. |
| 17:45:39 | kristina | Funny |
| 17:45:49 | bbholl | I've heard that before. |
| 17:45:53 | kristina | No, I haven't heard that a single time. |
| 17:46:02 | Lisa | I'll visit the drug stores in Salzburg and Vienna when I'm there in November, and see if they carry enema bags! World research! LOL! |
| 17:46:09 | kristina | I would be interested in any studies to that effect. |
| 17:46:11 | Dave |
Re colonics/enemas, Kristina has noted male clients mostly want the hose as opposed to women who want the more clinical colonic. Probably an element of psychology here - memories of Mom, etc? |
| 17:46:17 | clayface |
weird, i haven't heard that, but i have heard a lot of rejection talk to enemas and colonics. |
| 17:46:20 | kristina | Back to the story: |
| 17:46:24 | bbholl | It's something about colon mucus. |
| 17:46:41 | kristina |
As he began his daily enema, he found that there was nowhere to buy enema bags. |
| 17:46:51 | Robe | what is colon mucus? |
| 17:46:53 | gayle | She said Peggy Lee got colonics a lot and died of colon cancer. But I looked it up and Peggy Lee died of a heart attack at age 81 |
| 17:47:01 | kristina | He came to me as a colon hydrotherapist, told me about the need for a website that sells enema equipment. |
| 17:47:03 | bbholl | Not sure. |
| 17:47:30 | kristina | After some thought, my webmaster and I decided to start our second site together, www.enemabag.com. |
| 17:47:39 | clayface | cool |
| 17:47:44 | Elsie |
My primary care physician was adamant about colonics. I made the choice to defy her "expert" advice, and I don't regret for a moment that I did. I figure it's part of my job now to educate her. |
| 17:47:45 | clayface | i love that site |
| 17:47:55 | Robe | I read somewhere that May West took an enema every day. She was a looker even in her old age. |
| 17:48:10 | clayface | hi, Barbra |
| 17:48:11 | kristina | I am completely proud and blessed to have made that decision to start up a website to offer high quality enema equipment. |
| 17:48:24 | clayface | i am glad, too, Kristina |
| 17:48:32 | Robe | Yeah, Kristina, so are we. |
| 17:48:45 | gayle | Kristina, that's a neat story. |
| 17:48:49 | bbholl | Whenever I need to know about enemas, I go there. |
| 17:48:50 | Mike_K |
Yeah, me too |
| 17:48:51 | Dave | Lisa, remember einlauf and klistier, German for u know what, LOL. |
| 17:49:05 | Barbra | did I miss it? it was supposed to last an hour? |
| 17:49:08 | clayface |
unfortunately i still eat dairy and wheat products...so I don't know what I have allergies toward, and neither can i totally defeat constipation yet. |
| 17:49:10 | billy_the_kid | I have been more than pleased with your products |
| 17:49:37 | bbholl | What time zone are you in, Barbra? |
| 17:49:48 | Barbra | eastern |
| 17:49:50 | kristina |
Well, I guess the story of Peggy Lee was wrong. I do think that one needs to keep an eye on their electrolyte levels, which is why I have come to recommend the hair tissue mineral analysis |
| 17:50:15 | bbholl | EST or eastern coast? |
| 17:50:22 | clayface | Kristina, what do you recommend after an enema without salt, soap, or baking soda? |
| 17:50:24 | Barbra | est |
| 17:50:33 | clayface | i mean as afar as electrolyte balance and energy? |
| 17:50:37 | Dave | Looks like a nice turnout here, BTW, nearly double the previous ones. |
| 17:50:39 | clayface | hi, powercat |
| 17:50:42 | bbholl | Same as me. It started at 6 for us. |
| 17:50:45 | Lisa | I think the title of our forum is, OHN Enema Forum. Funny thing, I'm on the forum all the time, and I'm not really sure about the title!! |
| 17:50:50 | kristina | We are in the CST. It is now 5:50 where I live in Wisconsin. We end in ten minutes. |
| 17:51:17 | Lisa | Wow! Time flies!!! |
| 17:51:20 | bbholl | I mean the title about your posting that your mentioned. Sorry! |
| 17:51:32 | kristina | Yes, this is great fun. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to be here. Thank you. |
| 17:51:45 | clayface | thank you for opening up the chat session :D |
| 17:51:52 | bbholl | Thanks for doing this. I've always wanted to join. |
| 17:51:56 | Robe |
I'm getting ready to leave for Scandanavia and will be traveling with your Clear Enema Bag Kit. Plus Aloe 225 and Fruit and Fibre Cubes that I get from England. Also will be taking Beneflora packets one a day for 7 days. It's made for travelers. |
| 17:51:57 | clayface | hi, bbholl |
| 17:52:05 | Lisa |
Oh. Go to the announcements on the very top of our topics. |
| 17:52:06 | kristina | Homemade soup broth |
| 17:52:06 | bbholl | I could never make the time. |
| 17:52:11 | kristina | Celtic sea salt |
| 17:52:12 | bbholl |
Hey clayface. |
| 17:52:33 | kristina |
the homemade soup broth is an excellent food to eat before and after an enema series. |
| 17:52:34 | bbholl | Thanks, Lisa. |
| 17:52:39 | Barbra | why is sea salt better than salt? |
| 17:52:40 | gayle | What's the homemade soup broth for? |
| 17:52:44 | Lisa | You're welcome! |
| 17:52:44 | kristina | Of course, I also recommend raw dairy products. |
| 17:52:49 | clayface | ok, what kind of base for the soup do you recommend? |
| 17:52:58 | Robe | Yes, and dee dee Dr. Bieler's Soup. I make it often and have it for dinner instead of a heavy meal. |
| 17:53:08 | Elsie |
Raw dairy! Kristina, what is raw butter? |
| 17:53:10 | clayface | well, i have not bought raw dairy, because it is SO expensive |
| 17:53:15 | bbholl | Soup is a good idea. I've also heard about drinking juices. |
| 17:53:20 | clayface | it is around $9.00 a gallon of raw whole milk |
| 17:53:25 | bbholl | Homemade juices, that is. |
| 17:53:44 | Robe |
Can't drink milk - am dairy intolerant |
| 17:53:45 | kristina |
But one of the easiest ways to keep the electrolytes balanced is to put liberal amounts of a high quality sea salt on everything you eat, and in your water, such as our Celtic sea salt |
| 17:53:54 | sawdis | holy! 9 bucks a gallon. well at least you can get it |
| 17:54:06 | kristina | Raw milk is a completely different food than pasteurized dairy. |
| 17:54:13 | clayface | true, sawdis. |
| 17:54:24 | bbholl | Yea, all the good stuff hasn't been killed! :) |
| 17:54:25 | clayface | i would love to try it...if i had my own cow :) |
| 17:54:30 | kristina |
To learn more, see our raw milk resources page |
| 17:54:31 | clayface | hi, Richard |
| 17:54:43 | Dave | Kristina and all: How about here next on Wed., Aug. 9 at 5 Central? |
| 17:54:44 | kristina | Yes, we all need our own cow, or goat, or sheep or camel or.... |
| 17:54:53 | clayface |
or lived on a farm that didn't hinder me trying it |
| 17:54:55 | kristina | Sounds excellent, Dave. Thanks. |
| 17:55:02 | Robe |
Stay away from fresh juices that say "pasteurized" dead food. |
| 17:55:03 | gayle | I need to know what to do with raw milk when it curdles - details. |
| 17:55:03 | sawdis | so celtic sea salt does not raise blood pressure or contribute to heart attacks? |
| 17:55:36 | Elsie |
Thank you for a great site. It's nice to know a person can get answers some place in this world. |
| 17:55:45 | kristina | Also, a question to those that are just joining us: did you think it was at a different time or? I want to make the information more clear. How did you find out about the live chat? |
| 17:55:46 | Mike_K | sawdis |
| 17:55:47 | clayface | true, Elsie :) |
| 17:55:55 | Barbra | what is the difference between sea salt and celtic sea salt? |
| 17:56:09 | kristina | You are welcome, Elsie. It is nice to know that you are in the world, working hard to care about people. |
| 17:56:31 | kristina | Anyone can feel free to come by our farm and milk goats! |
| 17:56:41 | Robe |
Salt info - very important to understand the differences in celtic salt and sea salt. |
| 17:56:41 | clayface | cool. what is the cost? |
| 17:56:53 | Mike_K | pass on goat milking |
| 17:57:00 | Mike_K | Been there done that |
| 17:57:00 | bbholl | ditto |
| 17:57:15 | bbholl | about passing on the goat milking, that is :) |
| 17:57:26 | clayface | goats are cute :) |
| 17:57:49 | kristina | No, Celtic sea salt does not raise blood pressure or contribute to heart attacks. This I am one hundred percent certain of. |
| 17:57:52 | Mike_K | Just like kids they are when their babies |
| 17:57:55 | bbholl |
"bah" humbug :D |
| 17:58:01 | Barbra | so what is the difference between sea salt and celtic sea salt? |
| 17:58:15 | kristina |
The mineral content of Celtic Sea Salt makes this salt an important part of a healthful diet and colon cleansing program. Celtic Sea Salt rebalances the entire body. Celtic Sea Salt, a whole salt, naturally contains a variety of minerals that play a role in keeping the bodies electrolytes in a healthy balance. When common table salt (sodium chloride) is used, it affects the body in many negative ways. Common table salt lacks minerals and trace elements because it is purified and refined, leaving only sodium and chloride. After refining, common table salt is mixed with iodine, bleaching agents, and anti-caking agents to create a purely white, free-flowing product. Even many salts labeled "sea salt" are washed or boiled, which removes minerals and trace elements from the salt. These salts are absolutely toxic to the body. The method of harvesting makes a difference. Celtic Sea Salt is harvested near the coast
of Northwestern France. Ocean water, rich in a wide variety of minerals, is channeled into a series of clay-lined ponds. The wind and sun evaporate the ocean water, leaving a mineral-rich brine. This live mixture is briskly stimulated by the salt farmer, and dazzling salt crystals form. The Celtic Sea Salt is then gathered by hand using wooden tools. This harvesting method preserves the vital balance of the minerals found in Celtic Sea Salt. |
| 17:58:34 | kristina | Aw, Mike, come on.... |
| 17:58:52 | bbholl | Just KIDding, clayface. :D |
| 17:59:00 | Robe |
I'm telling you all, check out a product called Aloe 225 - It works and it is natural not habit forming or synthetic. |
| 17:59:00 | clayface | it's cool |
| 17:59:04 | Mike_K |
You forget I was raised on a goat farm |
| 17:59:40 | sawdis | so is gray sea salt the same as celtic sea salt? |
| 17:59:52 | kristina | Mike, I would like to hear the whole story some day. I bet you have milked way too many goats in your day! |
| 17:59:56 | sawdis | or does it have to be celtic? |
| 18:00:11 | clayface |
i have not milked ANY animals |
| 18:00:18 | Mike_K |
sawdis |
| 18:00:24 | Robe | How about milking a Celtic goat? |
| 18:00:25 | clayface | not* |
| 18:00:28 | clayface | lol |
| 18:00:37 | kristina | Sorry folks, but I have a 6pm client. I very much look forward to hearing from all of you on our message boards, via email and at next month's Live Chat. My blessings to all of you. Warmly, Kristina |
| 18:00:42 | Mike_K | Celtic sea salt is a trade name |
| 18:00:45 | clayface | bye, Kristina |
| 18:00:48 | clayface | bye, folks. |
| 18:00:57 | Robe | Ciao, Ciao |
| 18:01:00 | bbholl | bye Kristina |
| 18:01:05 | Elsie | Thank you , Kristina |
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