| 16:55:00 | billy_the_kid | Hello there everybody |
| 16:55:28 | bbholl | hello |
| 16:57:08 | bbholl | how's everyone, today? |
| 16:57:33 | Kristina |
Hello all. |
| 16:58:51 | Kristina | I am pleased to see you folks here. How are things? And, do go ahead with questions, comments or related stories. |
| 16:59:37 | bbholl | everything's fine - I'm glad that I could make two months in a row considering my schedule. :) |
| 16:59:58 | Kristina | Yes, indeed! |
| 17:00:24 | Kristina | My first question to this enema and health related community is about one of our enema products. |
| 17:01:00 | bbholl | go ahead, Kristina |
| 17:01:07 | bbholl | hi y'all! |
| 17:01:46 | Kristina | Our Flowmaster Cleansing Program, the enema system that we recommend to clean out the entire colon, contains an in line pump. |
| 17:02:15 | Kristina |
colon cleansing enema system |
| 17:03:00 | Kristina |
As do our Smooth Flow Syringe and Hose Systems |
| 17:03:45 | Kristina | My question to you all is, does anyone here use these products? How have you found the pump to work? Do you ever have issue with this enema hose getting clogged? |
| 17:03:53 | bbholl | hi Lisa! |
| 17:04:04 | Kristina | Hi Lisa! |
| 17:04:11 | Lisa | Hi everyone! |
| 17:04:14 | LoneEagle | I think the system works great |
| 17:04:54 | Mike_K |
Not with the hose, but with the valves in the syringe |
| 17:04:57 | LoneEagle |
At first I thought the 30cc retention inflatable bulb was kinda small |
| 17:06:08 | Kristina |
Another point I want to bring up is about our enema coffee. Originally, I had said this formula wouldn't taste good as your daily cup of coffee. I was absolutely wrong. It is wonderful coffee to drink. I drink it daily. And, we do now offer a whole bean coffee in order to preserve the therapeutic ingredients in the coffee. |
| 17:06:11 | LoneEagle |
But it works great I also like the fact that with the small bulb you can expel water around the bulb and still retain the bulb |
| 17:06:27 | saepowercat | My pump had two back flow valves at first. Dee Dee got it corrected. |
| 17:06:47 | Kristina |
Why purchase whole bean made-for-enema coffee? The reason coffee is therapeutic to the body are its elements, caffeine and the palmitic acid. When you use the coffee enema for healing the body, you want these ingredients to be fully intact within your coffee. AS SOON AS YOU GRIND YOUR COFFEE, THESE THERAPEUTIC ELEMENTS ARE DIMINISHED! Ground coffee only maintains its therapeutic elements for approximately two week. For this reason, OHN now recommends that you buy whole bean, made-for-enemas coffee, grind the coffee just before you brew it, and use all the coffee that you grind immediately. |
| 17:07:23 | Kristina | Yes, I meant the valves in the pump getting clogged? |
| 17:08:02 | Mike_K | They can be a problem if you have any kind of sediment in the solution |
| 17:08:40 | chris | Hi Kristina, in the last chat you mentioned that you were surveying the interest in prostate massage. Is this a service you will be offering? |
| 17:09:52 | Kristina | I have found new valves but I am still working out the issues of ordering and more. I just want a read on how many people are getting sediment trapped in those valves. |
| 17:10:05 | Kristina | Prostate massage- |
| 17:10:49 | Kristina |
I originally was thinking that I would offer it, but I given that my goal is to offer health tools that work, I am uncertain now. |
| 17:11:10 | Kristina | My research is currently leading me to believe that prostate massage doesn't have much benefit. |
| 17:11:28 | bbholl | I've found that too |
| 17:11:34 | Kristina | However, I have heard a few stories where people have had improved health from prostate massage. |
| 17:11:51 | bbholl | I've read pros and cons about prostate massage |
| 17:12:14 | bbholl | I don't totally understand how it can help. |
| 17:12:24 | Kristina | This, too, is a problem, Mike. Thanks for the encouragement. |
| 17:13:43 | Kristina | On my colon health blog, I detail an account of a man whose health declined after he worked on the rescue teams in New York City and 9/11. |
| 17:14:22 | Kristina |
After months of struggling with ill health, he found an acupuncturist in England to work with him. |
| 17:15:07 | Kristina | This elderly doctor put him on a protocol of milk and molasses enemas, followed up by soap suds enemas, essential oil implants and prostate massage. |
| 17:15:19 | Kristina | His health improved tremendously. |
| 17:16:06 | cav |
hi cristina...in some previous messages, you indicate that enemas can range anywhere from two to four quarts for a good cleanse. Realistically speaking, how many of your clients can hold a full four quarts? |
| 17:18:09 | Kristina |
Back to coffee, please do have a read of this article, when you have a chance. |
| 17:19:19 | Kristina |
The article basically states that therapeutic amounts of coffee, 2 T to 2 cups daily, are protective against colon cancer. It seems that coffee can be used therapeutically both orally and rectally, as long as you don't strain your adrenal glands. |
| 17:19:57 | Kristina | Most people can only take 1 to 2 quarts of enema solution into their colon on their first enema in an enema series. |
| 17:20:22 | Kristina | During the second enema in a series, most people can take 2-4 quarts of water into their colon. |
| 17:20:37 | Kristina |
I would say maybe 1 in 5 can take the larger amounts. |
| 17:20:46 | sawdis |
but it says unfiltered coffee, meaning don't use paper filters - just boil and decant? |
| 17:21:04 | Kristina |
I don't promote that one forces the larger amounts of enema solution into one's colon for a colon cleanse. |
| 17:21:49 | Kristina | However, if one can easily do so, without much cramping, taking three to four quarts of enema solution into one's colon does promote a cleanse throughout the entire colon. |
| 17:21:50 | cav | understood and thanks. |
| 17:22:00 | billy_the_kid |
the only way I could take 4 qts would be if it was administered by a mortician |
| 17:22:11 | Mike_K |
sawdis, you can get a metal coffee filter for your machine - that's what I use |
| 17:22:37 | Kristina |
Then, by all means, do not take any more enema solution into your colon than you can easily handle for a comfortable and thorough colon cleanse. |
| 17:22:37 | sawdis | nods |
| 17:23:02 | Mike_K | Maybe that's the way they put the trocar in (L) |
| 17:24:46 | Joseph | Hello, little late here sorry |
| 17:25:03 | bbholl | that's ok; come on in! :) |
| 17:25:05 | Kristina | Sawdis, well noticed...I don't exactly know what they mean there. Anyone else know? I am certain that most coffee has kahweol and cafestol palmitates. |
| 17:25:12 | Joseph | thanx bbholl :) |
| 17:25:18 | Kristina | Welcome, Joseph. |
| 17:25:24 | Kristina | How are you, Lisa? |
| 17:25:32 | Joseph | thank you Kristina |
| 17:25:55 | Lisa | I'm doing fine. Keeping busy |
| 17:26:31 | Lisa | Kristina, can you tell us something about the convention in N.M? |
| 17:27:34 | Kristina |
For those of you who don't know, I was just off in New Mexico studying. I learned a tremendous amount about health, about the role of the drug industry in keeping us unhealthy, about how to keep our hormones balanced, about the key role of the thyroid gland in keeping our bowels moving daily and much more. |
| 17:27:42 | Lisa | What part of New Mexico did you go too? |
| 17:27:43 | Kristina | Here is a small sample of one day's lecture: |
| 17:27:49 | Kristina | 1) |
| 17:29:02 | bbholl | interesting |
| 17:29:08 | Kristina | Of course, this is just an outline, but I wanted to let you all know that it was 5 of the most powerful days of my life and I will be sharing the information with you all over the many years to come. |
| 17:29:25 | Joseph | thank you! |
| 17:29:27 | lesaamen |
Oh. So my hypothyroid gland is the reason that I am unable to have regular BMs? |
| 17:29:28 | Joseph |
I'd like to post one question that's been on my mind. I've had allergies when I was a kid that triggered my asthma, but shots took care of that for a long time... |
| 17:29:41 | Kristina | I went to Silver City, New Mexico. I flew in and out of El Paso, TX. I also went to Mexico for an hour, which was a high. |
| 17:30:05 | Joseph |
After my first colonic irrigation earlier this year, I noticed a comeback of my hay fever and allergies... is that common? |
| 17:30:24 | Kristina | The thyroid gland is your master gland, or the gland that regulates your cells and your cellular respiration. |
| 17:30:58 | saepowercat | signing off . |
| 17:31:09 | bbholl | Maybe it's because your body started to detox itself, Joseph. |
| 17:31:23 | Kristina |
The thyroid gland also sees to it that your colonic peristalsis works right. |
| 17:31:28 | bbholl | When I got a colonic earlier this year, my acne came back for awhile. |
| 17:32:04 | bbholl | It then calmed back down as I drank more fluids. |
| 17:32:13 | lesaamen | I take 2 Thyroplex for Women plus a Thyroid Support to regulate my Thyroid. I got off the Levothroid (Synthroid) Rx. |
| 17:32:22 | Joseph | yeah, that's pretty wild, I would never have expected that bbhll. |
| 17:32:37 | Kristina | Yes, it is common to have old symptoms come back when you first start a colon cleansing regime. |
| 17:32:56 | Kristina | How are you doing now, Joseph? |
| 17:33:20 | Kristina | Are you still taking the shots? |
| 17:33:32 | bbholl | I wish I could keep up a cleaning regime so I can detox myself. |
| 17:33:34 | Joseph | well thanx, I just never expected it at the time! Since just a couple of weeks of the old allergies, they have gone for the most part. |
| 17:33:54 | bbholl | great! |
| 17:33:57 | Joseph | No Kristina, I haven't had the shots in a long time. |
| 17:34:01 | Joseph | :) |
| 17:34:46 | lesaamen |
Good, Joseph. Less is more. |
| 17:35:38 | Joseph | yep, I just never woulda guessed at that. I have had a few colonics since, and now will go each season. |
| 17:36:16 | Kristina | Joseph, just to continue with your detox, I would recommend that you take 2-4 T of coconut oil daily. Coconut oil is one of the best ways to detoxify the body, and it will improve one's thyroid function. |
| 17:36:36 | bbholl | when I get the money, I'm thinking about buying your flowmaster system, Kristina |
| 17:37:28 | lesaamen |
Kristina, explain why your colonic board which costs less, is as good (or better) than the "original" that costs about $50 more. |
| 17:37:33 | bbholl | I just looked at it on your site and it looks like it's a great system! |
| 17:37:34 | Joseph | Thank you, Kristina, I will try that. |
| 17:37:47 | Kristina | The flowmaster Cleansing Program is an excellent enema system to clear out the entire colon and it can replace or supplement visits to one's colon hydrotherapist. |
| 17:37:55 | billy_the_kid | Does T mean teaspoon or tablespoon? |
| 17:38:11 | Kristina | Tablespoon. |
| 17:38:30 | billy_the_kid | Tks |
| 17:38:57 | jtd | good evening folks--finally made it |
| 17:39:24 | bbholl | welcome! |
| 17:39:36 | jtd | thank you |
| 17:39:49 | Joseph | hello jtd |
| 17:40:07 | jtd | hi joseph |
| 17:40:14 | Kristina |
Our board is lighter and easier to work with. The Original Colema board is an excellent product - I just have found that one can spend less money on a colon cleansing product that works just as well. |
| 17:40:36 | bbholl | what advantages do boards have? |
| 17:40:39 | Kristina | Ours doesn't come with a movie but does come with written instructions on how to use the colon board. |
| 17:41:15 | Kristina | Can you ask again, Mike? |
| 17:41:18 | bbholl | aren't they messy? |
| 17:41:41 | Kristina | I don't tend to recommend the colon board unless a person has a very hard time of getting up and down. |
| 17:41:54 | jtd | I use a slant board--and don't leak or have holding troubles--it seems to work well for me |
| 17:42:22 | Lisa | Kristina, making a movie on the colon board would be a good idea. Any thought or plans on this? |
| 17:42:36 | lesaamen | I used Colemas for a period of 4 years. Then I moved and had to leave my Colema Board. I miss it, of course. Colemas are a great way to keep the Colon clean. |
| 17:42:56 | bbholl | comparisons with pros and cons between other options would be good |
| 17:43:07 | Kristina | I am sorry, I am distracted because the person who makes our goat milk soap just stopped by to pick up some goat's milk to make more soap. |
| 17:43:36 | jtd | understand Kristina--our place is like that |
| 17:44:02 | Kristina | Yes, the colon boards do tend to be messy and uncomfortable, which is why I don't tend to recommend them. |
| 17:44:19 | Lisa | Great! Keep making that soap! I think the goat milk soap works great! |
| 17:44:35 | jtd | I really lke it too |
| 17:44:41 | Kristina | I believe the history of the colon board is because folks have thought that enemas aren't as effective colon cleansing tools as colon hydrotherapy, and certainly the colon board is cheaper. |
| 17:44:51 | bbholl | I've never heard about goat milk soap before |
| 17:44:57 | lesaamen |
I want to buy another Colema Board. Low cost is important, because of low income. ALSO, my bathroom is apartment-size-small ... maybe too small to get a chair in front of the toilet to lean the Colema Board on. |
| 17:45:33 | Kristina |
Now, we know that enemas, done slowly and in a series, can clean the colon as well as going to a colon hydrotherapist. |
| 17:46:06 | Kristina | Lisa, making a movie on using the colon board is an excellent idea! |
| 17:46:13 | jtd |
I agree Kristina--thank you for contributing to that knowledge |
| 17:47:08 | Kristina |
I have been using the goat's milk soap on my face. I had had a rash for years that I couldn't get rid of, which is now gone - I am completely pleased with the goat's milk soap. I am glad you like it too, Lisa. |
| 17:47:08 | Mike_K | FYI 30 inches in front of the toilet is enough room for colon board |
| 17:47:29 | philw |
I just saw your video about how to do an enema and saw you using the "step" to put your legs up. Do you sell them? |
| 17:47:47 | Kristina | Our board doesn't come with a comfort pad. I recommend using a bathroom towel. |
| 17:48:01 | Lisa |
I hope you will do that someday Kristina! I have a bit of a hard time understanding how the colema board works. |
| 17:48:59 | lesaamen | From edge of toilet to wall is JUST 30 inches. There is a towel rack on the wall. |
| 17:49:17 | Kristina | Our board is 1/4 inch wider and 3 inches shorter, which allows it to fit in more bathrooms. |
| 17:49:35 | Lisa | The step is one of the products on OHN! |
| 17:50:50 | Lisa | The step is $75 I think. |
| 17:50:53 | philw | Sorry I must have missed it. Thought I looked thoroughly. |
| 17:51:13 | bbholl | can I use something else other than the step? |
| 17:51:18 | sawdis | i use a chair with 4 square pieces of wood connecting the legs as my welles step, but it doesn't help spread the legs so much |
| 17:51:40 | Kristina | Yes, we do offer the Welles Step. |
| 17:51:52 | Kristina | In many countries, toilets are made so that people squat when they move their bowels. The Welles Step positions your body so that you are squatting when you sit on the toilet. Squatting, by supporting the abdominal wall and the bowel as we bear down, brings about a more complete bowel evacuation. In this way, people who use the Welles Step tend to have fewer hemorrhoids, hernias, anal fissures, varicose veins and use less laxatives. Complete bowel evacuation leads to robust health. It fits under the toilet when not in use. |
| 17:51:59 | bbholl | what about a box; can I use that? |
| 17:52:06 | lesaamen | Kristina, is your Colema Board with the 5 gallon bucket? Does it cost $225? |
| 17:53:15 | Kristina |
Another difference in our product and the "Original" colema board is that our colon board comes with a bucket, and free shipping. |
| 17:53:36 | Lisa | A foot stool or a box should work, but it should be a comfortable height. |
| 17:53:43 | Kristina | $224.46 |
| 17:54:55 | lesaamen |
I tried a box. It does the same thing. But it was SOOOO UNCOMFORTABLE that I decided against it. Instead, I lean over while sitting on the toilet. This also supports the abdominal wall and bowel. For me, leaning over works better than a Step. |
| 17:54:58 | bbholl | thanks, Lisa! |
| 17:55:48 | Mike_K | Try a shorter box |
| 17:56:01 | Kristina | Our next Live Chat will be on Wednesday, September 13th. |
| 17:56:05 | lesaamen | I tried the recommended height. |
| 17:56:09 | Lisa |
I sometimes just lean over too, and that does work for me. |
| 17:56:25 | bbholl | what's the recommended height? |
| 17:56:32 | jtd | I do that lisa--works well |
| 17:56:40 | Kristina | I am thrilled to let you all know that the previous Wedneday, I have been invited to give a series of presentations on my book at our local food coop. |
| 17:56:51 | bbholl | same, I just want to try a box or something |
| 17:56:53 | lesaamen | Whatever height the Step is. |
| 17:56:56 | jtd | wonderful Kristina |
| 17:56:57 | Kristina | My book will be the featured book of the month for September. |
| 17:57:02 | Kristina | I am very excited. |
| 17:57:14 | jtd | you should be---:):):) |
| 17:57:20 | bbholl | wonderful! :D |
| 17:57:30 | Lisa | I think it depends on your height, and how long your legs are. I'm short, so I need something higher. |
| 17:57:45 | Kristina |
Also, the Weston A. Price Foundation (www.westonaprice.org) is writing a book review on Ten Days to Optimal Health: A Guide to Nutritional Therapy and Colon Cleansing in their fall issue of Wise Traditions. |
| 17:57:48 | Joseph | kewl Kristina |
| 17:57:49 | billy_the_kid | Congratulations |
| 17:58:04 | Kristina | Thanks everyone! |
| 17:58:05 | jtd | I must go---see you next time |
| 17:58:13 | Kristina | Good bye! |
| 17:58:24 | Kristina | A few last words from me... |
| 17:58:26 | Lisa | Hey! That's great about your book!!! |
| 17:58:26 | eloise | Kristina, what is the name of your book? |
| 17:58:36 | philw |
When will your presentations be? At Willy St.? |
| 17:58:58 | bbholl | gotta go - have a great month! |
| 18:00:04 | Kristina | Wellness Wednesday on September 6th, one in the am and one at dinnertime. I am currently not certain of the times. |
| 18:00:05 | lesaamen | Kristina, thanks for inviting me to your Chat Room. LesaAmen |
| 18:00:17 | Kristina | You are very welcome. Good bye all. |
| 18:00:20 | Joseph | Thanks Kristina, all, be well and have a great evening! |
| 18:00:49 | lesaamen | Blessed BE |
| 18:01:12 | sawdis | went by fast |
| 18:01:27 | Mike_K |
always does |
| 18:03:58 | eloise | Kristina, this is my very first experience in a chat room, it has proven to be quite interesting. Thank you for this time you shared and information. I hope to be joining you again next wednesday. |
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