| 17:53:46 |
Carol45 |
Hello everyone :D *choochoo* |
| 17:55:04 |
kristina |
Hello folks. Please go ahead and start posting as soon as you wish. I am ready to go. |
| 17:55:06 |
bbholl |
hi! :) |
| 17:56:05 |
bbholl |
Kristina, I remember ending last time with the Jack Elane power juicer; any thoughts? |
| 17:56:10 |
Dave |
Hi: Hope the turnout is as good as past couple months. |
| 17:56:19 |
bbholl |
agreed! |
| 17:56:23 |
Carol45 |
I've sure missed seeing how everyone is doing the last few days! :o |
| 17:56:54 |
kristina |
As we go along in tonight's chat, I want to survey you all about whether or not you have tried our Smooth Flow Syringe and Hose System |
| 17:57:14 |
billy_the_kid |
Hi Everybody |
| 17:57:16 |
kristina |
or any of our Flowmaster Cleansing kits |
| 17:57:27 |
Suzanne |
Hello all! |
| 17:57:38 |
Dave |
Have a couple topics to raise to help things along, but Kristina has some too I'm sure. |
| 17:58:19 |
kristina |
We have come up with a replacement valve for these items, which will allow the user to freely use coffee and other additives to the enema solution. |
| 17:58:30 |
kristina |
Please do bring up your topics, Dave. |
| 17:58:31 |
Carol45 |
I haven't tried any of the syringe systems, but have regulated the flow with the clamp. |
| 17:58:40 |
michael_t |
hi kristina, friday the 13th is just around the corner - anybody here superstitious? |
| 17:58:55 |
bbholl |
nope |
| 17:59:24 |
kristina |
I think Friday will be a great day, unless of course it is 20 degrees, cloudy and windy here in Madison. |
| 17:59:46 |
billy_the_kid |
I have not used the Flow System, but do like the Higginson Pump |
| 17:59:59 |
bbholl |
where I live, I heard a forecast of snow tomorrow! :o |
| 18:00:02 |
Dave |
The topics are status of the forum, and also whether folks here are tired or invigorated by colonic/enema sessions. |
| 18:00:08 |
Carol45 |
Doesn't the syringe system increase the amount of pressure? |
| 18:00:27 |
kristina |
The smooth flow delivers solution deeper into the colon, as it gently pushes pass any blockages. Folks who use this type of hose and pump system report less cramping, less leaking, and a therapeutic cleansing similar to a professional colon therapy session. |
| 18:00:56 |
Suzanne |
Kristina, I compiled a list of questions, which I just sent to you in an email. Should I post them here? |
| 18:01:22 |
kristina |
Sure |
| 18:02:01 |
Carol45 |
I haven't had a colonic session, but the enema series do invigorate and give me a sense of well being. |
| 18:02:52 |
billy_the_kid |
I also feel invigorated as well as very relaxed after an enema series |
| 18:03:05 |
kristina |
The forum is being reinvented. The categories will be different. My goal is to more effectively shape the forum as a health only forum. As far as when that will happen, I do not know. I am hoping I will have the new forum up within 1-2 months. |
| 18:03:29 |
kristina |
Welcome to Chele and Luigi |
| 18:03:38 |
bbholl |
Kristina, the colon clinic near me uses the open system - is there anything I need to know and/or do to maximize the cleaning? |
| 18:04:03 |
Dave |
A fairly new member has told me she felt "up" from her very recent colonics. As for me, my enemas as a kid were tiring. |
| 18:04:33 |
bbholl |
where's Lisa? |
| 18:04:43 |
kristina |
The syringe system gives you more control over water pressure. |
| 18:05:19 |
kristina |
Lisa is with a student until 5:30. |
| 18:05:30 |
bbholl |
ok, thanks! |
| 18:05:37 |
kristina |
Dave, how do you feel now after your colon cleanse? |
| 18:06:13 |
Carol45 |
As I have an antique "highboy" dresser I put my can on, I usually have a problem with too much pressure *) |
| 18:06:20 |
kristina |
bbholl, in order the maximize the effectiveness of your colon cleanse, you will want to have the therapist massage your belly during treatment. |
| 18:06:55 |
kristina |
Also, you may want the therapist to add some peppermint essential oil to the colon cleanse treatment about midway. |
| 18:07:02 |
bbholl |
however, I'm usually alone during the treatment |
| 18:07:10 |
bbholl |
the therapist leaves |
| 18:07:41 |
Dave |
I was usually sick anyway and ready for a nap. Now I feel invigorated after the colonics. |
| 18:07:48 |
kristina |
This is one reason I do not use an open colon hydrotherapy system as I believe in always staying with the client during their cleansing treatment. |
| 18:07:54 |
kristina |
You can massage your belly. |
| 18:08:09 |
michael_t |
kristina, my sister, a survivor of M.S.for 10 years, is most interested in changing her diet - among other things, is a hair sample the best start? |
| 18:08:15 |
kristina |
You can ask if you would be able to add peppermint. |
| 18:08:24 |
bbholl |
yea, the only closed system clinics that I know of are too far away |
| 18:08:45 |
Suzanne |
I'm not able to copy and paste the questions. I'll type them one by one. Are there any implant formulas or essential oils that are beneficial for leaky gut syndrome, ulcerative colitis, and Candida albicans? I've aware of frankincense and myrrh for Candida |
| 18:08:50 |
bbholl |
I've gotten better results with enemas than at the clinic |
| 18:08:53 |
bbholl |
sadly |
| 18:08:59 |
kristina |
Yes, a hair sample is an excellent start |
| 18:09:28 |
kristina |
Enemas, done properly, are just as effective as colon hydrotherapy. |
| 18:10:35 |
Carol45 |
I just recently received my hair analysis. the amount of information is surprising. Can't wait to talk to Kristina to understand it all. :D |
| 18:10:41 |
kristina |
Suzanne, that is a big list of health problems. Some people find just plain water enemas to help lots. That's where I would start. |
| 18:11:21 |
bbholl |
and I only have a twelve ounce bulb syringe |
| 18:11:23 |
kristina |
From there, I would work through the 35-day diet plan laid out in my book, Ten Days to Optimal Health |
| 18:12:02 |
Suzanne |
Thank you! I am really excited about getting started taking therapeutic enemas. |
| 18:12:09 |
kristina |
Can you tell what the hair analysis says at all, Carol? |
| 18:12:21 |
Carol45 |
I've been doing enema series with peppermint oil and coffee at the end. I have leaky gut among other things, and really feel better after almost two months. |
| 18:13:24 |
bbholl |
I think I'll get that book here soon |
| 18:13:32 |
Carol45 |
I can make out the hair analysis - arsenic was no surprise with all of my symptoms. It's what to do about supplements, etc. that has me confused. |
| 18:14:11 |
Carol45 |
The book has changed my life!!! |
| 18:14:47 |
Suzanne |
Thanks, Carol. I just found out that I have leaky gut. I've been researching this subject on the Net for the past couple of months. I'm also looking into doing a colon cleanse with psyllium, bentonite, and cleansing herbs. |
| 18:15:06 |
bbholl |
what is leaky gut? |
| 18:15:22 |
kristina |
Aw, Carol, I was so pleased to be a part of your healing team. Congratulations. |
| 18:15:26 |
_luigi |
how much peppermint oil per quart of water? |
| 18:15:30 |
Carol45 |
Suzanne, check out the Vit-Ra-Tox program Kristina has. |
| 18:16:06 |
kristina |
The book details the colon cleanse program with psyllium, bentonite and cleansing herbs. I must say that it is very important that you prepare for such a fast before you partake of it. |
| 18:16:37 |
Dave |
Carol, I was started off very early in ife with an enema can held too high. We've both learned LOL. |
| 18:16:52 |
kristina |
I can't tell you how many people I have seen end up more sickly after a colon cleanse because their body just didn't have the reserves needed for a deep tissue cleanse. |
| 18:17:00 |
kristina |
The liver needs to be working to fast. |
| 18:17:15 |
kristina |
The glands need to be optimized before a fast. |
| 18:17:30 |
bbholl |
does the book describe this preparation? |
| 18:17:46 |
kristina |
The colon needs to have had a good 30 days of daily emptying before a deep tissue cleanse. |
| 18:18:06 |
billy_the_kid |
The purchase of an IV stand solves a lot of pressure problems |
| 18:18:14 |
Suzanne |
bbholl, as I understand it, leaky gut is when the intestines are permeable. Leaky gut is the root cause of many degenerative diseases. |
| 18:18:22 |
kristina |
Yes, this is why the book is called 35 Days To... because it is a 30-day program that ends in a 5-day fast or deep tissue cleanse. |
| 18:19:21 |
bbholl |
I thought is was 10 days; am I looking at the wrong one? |
| 18:19:38 |
bbholl |
thanks Suzanne! |
| 18:19:54 |
kristina |
Oops, I am also talking to my shipping department as I write this...sorry. |
| 18:20:22 |
Carol45 |
With my general state of health, cleaning out the pantry, and replacing with good stuff, I'm working on 60 days. I cut back on the series last week to twice a week, but find I'm doing better with the daily routine. |
| 18:20:43 |
kristina |
Yes, it is Ten Days but subtitled 10-day Milestones in a 35-day Program |
| 18:20:43 |
bbholl |
isn't the colon permeable anyway? |
| 18:21:20 |
Dave |
Kris, our ultimate multi-tasker, LOL. Just don't interrupt an enema! |
| 18:21:31 |
bbholl |
:D |
| 18:21:38 |
Carol45 |
With Leaky Gut the bad stuff gets through. :? |
| 18:22:02 |
bbholl |
instead of just the water - ok, gotcha |
| 18:22:13 |
Suzanne |
Kristina, thank you for the helpful information. In fact, I did cause myself great harm when I randomly embarked upon a cleanse with psyllium and bentonite. I've found the website of Dr. Richard Anderson, www.cleanse.net, to be a valuable resource. |
| 18:22:35 |
kristina |
What happened, Suzanne? |
| 18:23:54 |
Suzanne |
bbholl, Google "leaky gut" or "intestinal permeability" for more info! |
| 18:24:10 |
bbholl |
will do, thanks! |
| 18:25:17 |
kristina |
The official definition is an increase in permeability of the intestinal mucosa to luminal macromolecules, antigens and toxins associated with inflammatory degenerative and/or atrophic mucosal damage. |
| 18:25:20 |
Carol45 |
luigi, I started with 3 drops of peppermint oil per quart. Everyone's system is different - yours will tell you if you use too much. |
| 18:25:21 |
bbholl |
I just did a search - eww |
| 18:25:27 |
Dave |
Kristina, can you go over post-enema series/colonic implant of bifudis, which I guess is best done rectally to replace good colon bacteria?? |
| 18:25:30 |
bbholl |
is there any way to fix this? |
| 18:26:03 |
kristina |
The barrier posed by the intestinal mucosa is, even in normal subjects, an incomplete one. Small quantities of molecules of different sizes and characteristics cross the intact epithelium by both active and passive mechanisms |
| 18:26:22 |
kristina |
Once the gut lining becomes inflamed or damaged, this disrupts the functioning of the system. The spaces open up and allow large food antigens, for example, to be absorbed into the body. Normally the body sees only tiny food antigens. When it sees these new, larger ones, they are foreign to the body's defense system. So the attack results in the production of antibodies against once harmless, innocuous foods. |
| 18:26:52 |
bbholl |
*) |
| 18:26:54 |
kristina |
Yes, bifidus is a healthy bacteria that resides in the large intestines. |
| 18:27:31 |
Suzanne |
Kristina, I developed eczema over the summer following an unresolved food poisoning incident (some microorganism from raw lettuce). I was then eating a high carb diet (macrobiotic with high carb vegetables like squash). |
| 18:28:17 |
kristina |
Once the colon is cleansed, mix a small amount of bifidus (dependent on the individual) with 1-2 cups of water or aloe vera juice. This enema implant solution may be retained for as long as it will easily stay within the colon. |
| 18:29:08 |
bbholl |
hi Lisa! |
| 18:29:21 |
billy_the_kid |
Hi Lisa |
| 18:29:24 |
kristina |
We obviously missed you already, Lisa. Welcome! |
| 18:29:42 |
Lisa |
HI! At least I can make the last 30 minutes!! |
| 18:30:10 |
bbholl |
I hear you were with a student - tutor? |
| 18:30:14 |
Lisa |
Thanks Kristina! |
| 18:30:25 |
Suzanne |
I noticed that my abdomen was very distended. I recalled about cleansing, which I had wanted to do a year prior. Feeling very ill, and only having psyllium and bentonite at hand (no cleansing herbs) and no instructions, I began taking P&B shakes. At first, I was having great success |
| 18:31:16 |
kristina |
Sorry, I missed your question, Luigi...yes, I recommend 2-4 drops per quart of water. One can use more if there is no irritation and the resulting stool release isn't as you wish, but if there is any irritation, use less. |
| 18:31:52 |
_luigi |
thanks |
| 18:31:54 |
kristina |
I have used peppermint in the colon cleanse solution with hundreds of clients and I have only seen 2 people react negatively. |
| 18:32:28 |
bbholl |
how do I know if I've used too much peppermint? |
| 18:32:37 |
Suzanne |
because I was mostly eating vegetables. I began eliminating "mucoid plaque" (another term to Google!). However, I was very hungry and thought that I might need some protein, so I added in chicken and eggs. |
| 18:32:54 |
Lisa |
Nice to see some old board members here. I miss you guys! |
| 18:32:55 |
kristina |
Your colon would hurt if you used too much peppermint. |
| 18:33:10 |
billy_the_kid |
If I use too much peppermint, I will cramp badly |
| 18:33:22 |
Carol45 |
Lisa, I hope you have good weather on your trip overseas. |
| 18:33:26 |
Lisa |
I burn if I use too much peppermint! |
| 18:33:26 |
_luigi |
is the peppermint oil in addition to soap? |
| 18:33:28 |
Dave |
Thanks Kristina. A local therapist said take half-teaspoon of bifudis is an empty Fleet bulb with 2 oz water and retain. It worked. |
| 18:33:32 |
Dave |
Hi Lisa. |
| 18:33:46 |
Lisa |
Hi Dave!! |
| 18:33:50 |
kristina |
Suzanne, are you still struggling with eczema? |
| 18:34:23 |
kristina |
No, instead of soap |
| 18:34:47 |
Lisa |
Thanks Carol! Should be a little cold in Austria, but coming from Texas, I don't mind the chill at all. |
| 18:34:49 |
Suzanne |
At the same time, I was so desperate to get rid of all the toxins. So, I was taking large amounts of psyllium, but not enough water! Now, I know that one should not take more than two teaspoonfuls of psyllium at one time. So, I developed ulcerative colitis, in addition to eczema. |
| 18:35:31 |
philw |
Kristina, could you talk about the difference between the open system and the closed system colonic? Are there any dangers to either? |
| 18:36:15 |
kristina |
Water often works wonders as the enema solution. However, if water isn't doing the trick to cleanse the colon well enough, I will recommend soap in the first enema in an enema series and peppermint in the second enema in the enema series. |
| 18:36:39 |
Carol45 |
My esophagus is S L O W. Suzanne, did you ever have a problem with the psyllium swelling in your throat? |
| 18:36:40 |
kristina |
For the third enema, I will most often recommend the coffee enema. |
| 18:36:45 |
Lisa |
I bought the 8 oz bulb from OHN to take on my trip. I need to view your bulb movie again! |
| 18:37:48 |
kristina |
Suzanne, you will most likely need to supplement with Progesterone in order to tackle these symptoms of ill health. |
| 18:38:11 |
kristina |
However, I don't recommend any of the progesterone creams. |
| 18:38:15 |
Suzanne |
My abdomen became very distended, and I became constipated. I took Cascara sagrada to have a bowel movement. I think that this incident is what caused the ulcerative colitis to develop. I am very sensitive to many foods now, even healthy foods. |
| 18:38:31 |
Dave |
Lisa, from my experience, coffee and an 8-oz bulb are natural fits, lol. |
| 18:38:33 |
michael_t |
to carol 45, i started with concerns about toxins after getting the 35 days book and reading late into the night - following just about everything, including the fast, I feel I have a new lease on life. |
| 18:38:43 |
kristina |
The only progesterone supplement I recommend is progesterone in Vitamin E that is rubbed on the gums and/or the lips. |
| 18:39:13 |
kristina |
The only product of its kind that I know of is called Progest-E. |
| 18:39:44 |
Lisa |
Dave, Coffee in Austria will go in both ends. LOL! |
| 18:41:31 |
Suzanne |
Thank you, Kristina, for the helpful information about progesterone. I have researched the cleansing program on cleanse.net, and feel like this cleansing protocol is very safe and effective. I am going to try this protocol. |
| 18:42:15 |
kristina |
Michael, I would be honored if you said a few words about what symptoms of ill health you were struggling with... |
| 18:42:40 |
Dave |
Lisa, if it's good, you'll fall asleep even with caffeine, LOL |
| 18:43:01 |
kristina |
Do keep us posted about how that goes, Suzanne. I would love to hear from you more via email. Also, do you want me to answer the other questions that you send in your email? I can post them here for you. |
| 18:44:16 |
Suzanne |
If I do not achieve success with this protocol, I will look into the 10-Day Program to Optimal Health. I was following the Eat Right 4 Type diet for several years, and want to see if following a vegetarian diet is key to a clean colon (no mucoid plaque). |
| 18:45:11 |
Suzanne |
Kristina, it would be wonderful if you could answer the other questions in my email! Thank you! |
| 18:45:47 |
kristina |
One guiding principle that I always think about as I am working with folks and as I try new ideas with my own body, is that if a program is right for you, you will see excellent results within 1-3 months, if not sooner. |
| 18:46:44 |
kristina |
Will using essential oils with a silicone bag affect the bag? |
| 18:47:01 |
kristina |
No, silicone will not degrade with the use of oils. |
| 18:47:21 |
kristina |
Can fresh garlic or ginger be used in implant formulas? In terms of dried garlic and ginger, is it a good idea to use teas from these herbs in implants? |
| 18:48:23 |
Suzanne |
Prior to the Eat Right 4 Your Type diet, I was a strict vegan for 5 years. However, I did not feel healthy, as I was consuming way too much fruit, which I believe encouraged Candida growth. |
| 18:48:33 |
kristina |
I would not recommend garlic or ginger in an enema solution. The idea behind garlic and ginger is that there are parasites or yeast within the colon that will be removed or killed by using these substances. |
| 18:49:08 |
Suzanne |
What about oregano essential oil in an implant? |
| 18:49:08 |
kristina |
These substances will most likely also harm the delicate tissues of the colon and the healthy bacteria that largely resides in the colonic mucosa. |
| 18:49:29 |
Dave |
Kristina, just to get back to a first question: |
| 18:51:15 |
Dave |
do most clients tire or invigorate with a therapy/treatment session or no difference? |
| 18:51:26 |
kristina |
Again, oregano is antibacterial and antimicrobial. I think it would irritate the tissue of the colon. Certainly, you could try it and report on how the treatment went with you. |
| 18:52:08 |
bbholl |
I drink alot of tea every day, is that ok? |
| 18:52:37 |
kristina |
The goal with those substances is best met not by a "kill the invaders" approach but rather by optimizing your entire metabolism to have your own immune system handle any overload or invasion. |
| 18:52:37 |
Suzanne |
I am now very interested in exploring raw foods. I have been reading about the value of sprouting seeds, nuts, even grains. Since I have Candida, it is best that I eliminate fruit and carbs, until I have healed from this. So, I am focusing on vegetables. |
| 18:52:42 |
kristina |
What kind of tea? |
| 18:53:59 |
Suzanne |
Thank you, Kristina, for answering my questions. Thank you for the great information! |
| 18:54:11 |
bbholl |
black, green, herbal, or a combination; depends on what I want in the morning - I make it hot that morning in a 40 oz mug and I drink it all day |
| 18:54:12 |
Dave |
Any idea of next chat, say 4 weeks, Nov. 8?? |
| 18:54:42 |
kristina |
Your body needs some carbohydrates in the form of fruit sugars. You absolutely do not need grains and most people who give up grains for a bit of time often heal easily. |
| 18:55:17 |
philw |
Can you tell us the difference between the open and the closed system colonic. Is there any danger to either? |
| 18:55:18 |
kristina |
Yes, November 8th at 5pm, CST is the next chat. It is always the second Wednesday of the month. |
| 18:55:58 |
michael_t |
kristina, after working on 3 different railroads, been around 3 massive warehouse fires,a nd 3 close friends testing with asbestos residue in their lungs, i've wondered about my health - x-rays have no residues for me. so i looking good so far. |
| 18:56:00 |
Dave |
Sounds good. |
| 18:56:01 |
Lisa |
I'll be in Salzburg and Vienna during the next chat! YAY! I can't wait!! |
| 18:56:25 |
kristina |
Most people (90-95% of the clients I see) do feel energized from colon hydrotherapy. The ones that don't, don't tend to try it again. |
| 18:56:37 |
bbholl |
I'll be late :( |
| 18:56:49 |
Dave |
Well, find a cyber cafe girl! |
| 18:56:54 |
bbholl |
but I will be here! :) |
| 18:57:05 |
Suzanne |
I'm excited about beginning to take therapeutic enemas. Will report back next month. Thank you so much for this wonderful community! |
| 18:57:36 |
kristina |
I would avoid black tea but the green and herbal teas tend to be healthy. |
| 18:57:56 |
bbholl |
I've always enjoyed this chat since I've been able to make it. |
| 18:57:57 |
Suzanne |
Lisa, my father's from Austria, and I have been to Austria several times. Hope you have a great trip! |
| 18:58:08 |
bbholl |
why avoid the black tea? |
| 18:58:09 |
Carol45 |
It's been great chatting with all of you. Looking forward to being with you on Nov. 8. *choochoo* |
| 18:58:22 |
billy_the_kid |
Thanks again, Kristina, for all your time |
| 18:58:24 |
kristina |
Thank you all for coming to the live chat so that I could hang out with you all. I truly appreciate each and every one of you. You make my life better. |
| 18:58:31 |
kristina |
That was fun... a train whistle... |
| 18:58:47 |
kristina |
*chooochooo* |
| 18:58:50 |
Suzanne |
Thank you, Kristina. Have a great October, all. |
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