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Alternative Health Live Chat with Kristina
October 10, 2007

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20:02:05   kristina  Hello everyone. Glad you could join us. Sorry about the time confusion.
20:02:09   Lisa  At least there is the four of us!
20:02:26   Lisa  That's okay Kris!
20:02:57   kristina  I have a fabulous conference in Michigan.
20:03:08   Mike K  no big deal I'm always confused
20:03:21   Dave  Tell us about it
20:03:22   Lisa  Great! I'm looking forward to hearing about that!
20:03:27   kristina  I had a booth at the Weston A. Price Regional conference. Next year, I have been asked back as a speaker.
20:03:31   kristina  I am thrilled.
20:03:47   Dave  Any plans to do the national one near me?
20:03:53   Lisa  How wonderful Kris!!
20:04:30   Lisa  I bet you sold many books there!
20:04:58   kristina  Each year, the Weston A. Price has a national conference near to Washington, D.C.
20:05:15   Lisa  Are you going to that one too?
20:05:23   kristina  Here are some excerpts from the WAPF national conference:
Wise Traditions 2007
A Showcase for Delicious Traditional Food
A Unique Opportunity for Health Professionals and Laymen interested in Farming, Diet and Health
Who Should Attend Wise Traditions? Doctors, nurses, nutritionists, dietitians, parents, students, food writers, food providers, farmers, public servants, teachers, patients, activists, agriculture professionals, people interested in nutrition, people with no interest in nutrition, people who love to cook, people who hate to cook, people who like to eat, Baby Boomers concerned about their health, grandparents concerned about their grandchildren, couples who want healthy babies, people who want answers, people who love controversy. . . and You!
20:05:46   kristina  Featured Speakers: * Jen Allbritton, CN, author of the Growing Wise Kids series * Jerry Brunetti, expert on soil fertility and human health * Natasha Campbell-McBride, MD, author of The Gut and Psychology Syndrome * Thomas Cowan, MD, author of The Fourfold Path to Healing * Kaayla T. Daniel, PhD, author of The Whole Soy Story * Carol Esche, RN, DNP, MA, CNA, expert on holistic nursing * Mary Enig, PhD, author of Know Your Fats * Sally Fallon, MA, author of Nourishing Traditions * Dennis Frerking, DC, enzyme expert * Donna Gates, author of The Body Ecology Diet * Doug Gunnink, soil and forage expert * Philip Incao, MD, anthroposophic physician * Chris Masterjohn, WAPF chapter leader and researcher * Mary Megson, MD, expert on the treatment of autism * Vinny Pinto, expert on effective microorganisms * Kathryn Pirtle, author of Performance without Pain * Jessica Prentice, author of Full Moon Feast * Marianne Rothschild, MD, holistic physician * Michael Schmidt, Canadian raw milk activist * Sherry Tenpenny, MD, vaccination expert * Harvey Ussery, founder of themodernhomestead.us * Donna Wild, nutritionist, herbalist and educator and many other fine speakers on diet and health, as well as seminars and sessions on: * Backyard Farming * Testing for Nutritional Deficiencies * Community Kitchens * Nutrition for Teens and Young Adults * Vaccinations and Autism * Nutrition for Child Development * Digestive Health * Soil Fertility * Practical Cooking and Healing Plans
20:06:06   kristina  The conference I went to is a much smaller conference but with fabulous speakers.
20:06:27   Lisa  That's all that matters!
20:07:05   kristina  This is an event not to be missed in Michigan and surrounding states and complements the highly regarded National Weston A. Price Conference "Wise Traditions" held annually in Washington D.C. for the past 7 years. A unique opportunity to hear an inspirational range of expert speakers on important nutrition and health topics providing essential learning for our own personal quests in achieving optimal health. In addition we will showcase delicious nutrient dense foods and drinks as validated by Weston A. Price throughout both days including hors d’oeuvre’s, snacks, lunch and drinks. All food will be organic, mainly local, nutrient dense and delicious!
20:07:37   kristina  If you go to http://www.wisetraditionsmichigan.org/index.html, you can see that Optimal Health Network was a sponsor.
20:07:54   kristina  Also, I learned a lot from a particular speaker named Dr. Janet Lang.
20:08:09   kristina  She teaches how to balance male and female hormones.
20:08:30   Lisa  Hello winwip! Are you new here? If you want too, you can tell us about yourself.
20:08:34   Dave  Were they as open-minded to colon hydrotherapy/therapeutic enemas as hoped?
20:08:47   kristina  In practice for 27 years, Dr. Land now dedicates her time to ongoing research and teaching professionals seminars across the country on the following topics: * Balancing Female Hormones Naturally * Balancing Male Steroid Hormones Naturally * Thyroid, Adrenals, and Blood Sugar * The Cardiovascular System
20:09:37   kristina  Yes, many people at the conference were very pleased to see us there. We had an assortment of enema equipment, which we sold. We did also sell quite a few of my book on colon cleansing and nutrition, Kristina Amelong's Ten Days to Optimal Health.
20:09:47   winwip  I am new to the chatroom! I want to educate myself on how to get healthy.
20:10:03   kristina  Are you having any symptoms of ill health, winwip?
20:10:22   Lisa  That great winwip. Glad to have you here!
20:11:03   winwip  I have a whole and I do mean whole host of conditions and problems.
20:11:53   kristina  You would be welcome to share what is going on with you. I bet we can start you on the path to excellent health!
20:12:17   Lisa  Hi Denise! Glad more people are joining us now!
20:12:37   winwip  OK!
20:13:14   Dave  Given that enema equipment not readily available as in earlier years. I figured you'd have buyers.
20:13:20   kristina  By listening to Dr. Lang, I was able to connect for myself how the adrenal stress response and associated blood sugar challenges effect both female and male hormone.
20:13:41   Denise  sorry I couldn't figure out where to type now I am good and Hello All
20:14:38   Lisa  Nice to have new members! Do you know about our message board?
20:14:39   kristina  And, what we can do about improving one's health using saliva readings.
20:15:04   Dave  Are you a newbie on the forum too, Denise?
20:15:14   Denise  Yes, I have been reading them for years and they are very helpful
20:15:49   kristina  Another subject that fascinated me at the conference was the connection between the mechanism of liver-gall bladder hormone detoxification and excretion and the necessity to facilitate this process in managing female problems.
20:16:07   kristina  Hi Denise. Good to see you here tonight.
20:16:20   Dave  This is the place to get instant answers and others' experiences.
20:16:23   Denise  Thank you. Hello
20:17:02   Denise  I want to listen and learn and don't feel that I know enough about my problem to comment yet
20:17:47   kristina  So, more on hormones: Let's start with the adrenal glands:
20:18:08   kristina  Abnormal adrenal function can alter the ability of cells to produce energy for activities of daily living. People who have a hard time rising in the morning, or who suffer with a low energy level during the day, often have abnormal adrenal rhythms and poor blood sugar regulation.
20:18:24   kristina  Abnormal adrenal rhythms are known to compromise tissue healing. Reduced tissue repair and increased tissue breakdown can lead to muscle and joint breakdown with chronic pain.
20:18:43   kristina  The adrenal rhythm determines how well we build bone. If the night cortisol level is elevated and the morning level is too high, our bones do not rebuild well, and we are more prone to the osteoporotic process. Stress is the enemy of the bones. In postmenopausal women, the effect of stress worsens due to the female hormone imbalances.
20:19:00   Denise  And as I learned today can cause constipation in some?
20:19:09   kristina  Various immune cells (white blood cells) cycle in and out of the spleen and bone marrow for special conditioning, and possible nourishment and instructions. This immune system trafficking follows the cortisol cycle. So, if the cycle is disrupted, especially at night, then the immune system is adversely affected. Short and long-term stress is known to suppress the immune response on the surfaces of our body as in lungs, throat, urinary and intestinal tract. With the reduction in the surface antibody (called secretory IgA), the resistance to infection is reduced and allergic reactions are believed to increase.
20:19:20   kristina  Yes, and constipation...
20:19:30   kristina  The ability to enter REM sleep cycles, i.e. regenerative sleep, is interrupted by high cortisol values at night and in the morning. Chronic lack of REM sleep can reduce the mental vitality and vigor of a person and induce depression.
20:19:44   kristina  Human skin regenerates mostly during the night. With higher night cortisol values, less skin regeneration takes place. So, a normal cortisol rhythm is essential for optimal skin health.
20:19:58   kristina  The level of cortisol at the cell level controls thyroid hormone production. Quite often, hypothyroid symptoms such as fatigue and low body temperature are due to an adrenal maladaptation.
20:20:12   kristina  About 12-18% of the U.S. population suffers from a genetic intolerance to grain. Specifically, a high incidence occurs in Celtic, Germanic, and Nordic derivation. The gut becomes inflamed within 30 minutes after consuming the grains and this can lead to an adrenal stress response, increased cortisol and reduced DHEA.
20:20:43   Denise  I was told to take my body temp upon wakening to see if I have low thyroid and it was low - is this what you mean?
20:21:39   kristina  As you can see, making sure your adrenals and your adrenal hormones are functioning properly are key to good health.
20:21:54   Denise  Is this siliac?
20:22:10   kristina  Yes, low temperature is one indicator of an underfunctioning thyroid.
20:22:23   kristina  Yes, celiac
20:22:44   kristina  But, also Leaky Gut Syndrome and IBS
20:22:47   Denise  not a good speller on the spot
20:23:03   kristina  just fine. just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same things
20:24:03   Denise  I have never felt the symptoms of irritable bowel - just the constpation. could I still have the celiac?
20:24:12   winwip  I am dealing with asthma, bi-polar with hipomania, breast cancer (remission), COPD, fibromyalgia, lymphodemia, thyroid (Hashimoto), vertigo from a recent accident which includes, blurred vision and memory problems. I was on 15 different medicines.
20:24:13   kristina  Yes and no.
20:25:24   Denise  Hopefully I will find out after this week, with Kristina's help I am going off of grains for the week to see if it helps.
20:25:54   kristina  You can have an grain intolerance that causes you ill health but isn't necessarily a "condition."
20:26:09   kristina  Go Denise!!!
20:26:21   kristina  Winwip, that is a tough list of health problems.
20:26:41   winwip  I have more!
20:26:57   kristina  What things have you done to improve your health up to this point?
20:26:58   Denise  Thanks I need the cheering on, its not going to be easy I love my grains!
20:27:29   Carol45  Good evening. I've missed you all.
20:27:42   kristina  Yes, grains are the heart of many the diet..and for good reason...they are yummy, soft, sweet, filling, and more..
20:27:49   kristina  Hi Carol, welcome!
20:27:50   Dave  More the merrier, Carol
20:28:05   Denise  Hello
20:28:25   Lisa  Hi Carol! We all missed you, and am glad you can join us tonight! How are you doing Carol?
20:28:36   Carol45  See you're talking about grains. I have found them hard to totally give up also.
20:28:39   kristina  Denise, make sure that you find other treats...hanging with a special friend, sitting in a sauna, music, movies, baby carrots...hehehe
20:29:20   Denise  Yes, I will have to get creative,
20:29:57   kristina  Carol, as I was talking about earlier, but you aren't able to read any longer, I will now be doing tests that detect gluten antibodies and helps identify grain intolerance
20:30:20   Carol45  Oh - what a great idea!
20:30:32   kristina  Here is more about the testing:
20:30:34   kristina  The Adrenal Stress Index™ (ASI™) - Four saliva samples are used in the ASI™ for the following ten tests: 4 x Cortisol - Helps evaluate stress response; 2 x Insulin - Helps investigate blood sugar control; DHEA - Helps determine stress adaptation; Secretory IgA - Helps evaluate toll on immunity; 17-OH Progesterone - Helps determine adrenal reserve
20:30:45   Denise  That sounds like something I may need in the future
20:31:28   Carol45  Sounds like this needs to be done in your office - ?
20:31:34   kristina  Carol, how is your health these days?
20:31:40   Carol45  Stinks
20:31:59   Denise  Is the information available from the seminar that you recently went to Kristina, it sounds like it was packed with information?
20:32:14   kristina  The test is non-invasive and can be performed wherever you are. Saliva is collected in vials that are sent to your home.
20:32:17   Carol45  Guess it isn't that bad as I'm working every day, but getting little done at home.
20:32:58   Carol45  I need to get your book out and start all over again from scratch.
20:33:50   kristina  I have been studying non-stop since I arrived home from the seminar and I have been studying this stuff for over two years but hadn't run into this mentor, yet. I have been working with thyroid, progesterone, vitamin D and more through my work with Metabolic Typing and Ray Peat.
20:33:57   Carol45  Is the new test listed on the site? I just got a different monitor - have been having problems seeing and using the top of the screen correctly - so haven't been on the computer much.
20:34:19   Denise  Has anyone here gone off of all grains and how has it been for you?
20:34:57   Carol45  When I cheat and eat them I feel rotten the next day.
20:35:32   kristina  The testing is only available at this point through a phone call. Technically, we are putting all our energies into launching our new website in November so I won't be able to add new products to the site until the site is launched and all the bugs are worked out. Call Dee Dee anytime if you have more questions, or email me at kristina@optimalhealthnetwork.com
20:36:00   Denise  So it does help you to refrain from them I presume?
20:36:17   kristina  I haven't eaten any grains for probably about 9 years. The healing I have been able to do is tremendous, both emotionally and physically.
20:36:59   Denise  Do you ever miss eating pizza or sandwiches or pasta?
20:37:00   Carol45  Still no answer from the hair test lab via the chiropractor's office :{ so will be contanting Dee Dee on that subject also.
20:37:24   Dave  What replaces fiber in grains to keep the system open and working?
20:37:27   Carol45  Rye bread
20:37:51   kristina  However, I did this work over many, many months of being very sick, grieving the loss of my beloved foods as well as all the loss that was connected to my lifestyle choices, like my brother dying...
20:38:02   kristina  Vegetables and fruits.
20:38:24   Carol45  I meant I miss rye bread. Typed too slow.
20:39:00   Carol45  Lisa, how did your last trip go?
20:39:04   kristina  Avocado Beans Broccoli* Brussels sprouts* Cabbage* Carrot Chick Peas/Garbanzo Beans Eggplant Greens -- collards, kale, turnip greens* Lima beans Mushrooms Potato with skin Pumpkin, canned Peas -- black-eyed peas, green peas Peppers Rhubarb Spinach* Sweet Potatoes
20:39:32   Denise  Kristina do you also do the meat and dairy along with veggies and fruits and are all the vegies you eat cooked?
20:39:43   Lisa  Carol, I have not left yet. I'll be leaving November 1st to Berlin Germany!
20:39:49   kristina  The vegetables with an asterisk are also goitrogenic, meaning that they promote thyroid enlargement and can potentially cause or aggravate hypothyroidism. Typically, the risk is highest when these foods are consumed raw, regularly, and in substantial quantity. Cooking eliminates most goitrogenic properties.
20:40:01   kristina  Highest Fiber Fruits Apples Avocado Bananas Berries -- Blueberies, Blackberries, Raspberries, etc. Dried Fruits -- Figs, Raisins, Apricots, Dates, etc. Guava Kiwi Orange Pears Prunes
20:40:46   Denise  so I can eat bananas? I was told to stay away because they may be constipating?
20:40:47   kristina  I do but since I was so very, very sick I have come to not miss any of it because I love be well SO VERY MUCH!!
20:41:21   Denise  Are you in good health now?
20:41:23   kristina  Yes, for some, bananas are constipating. I would limit those but you can have 1/2 a banana every other day or so...
20:41:37   Dave  Looks like there are plenty of alternatives to grain.
20:41:41   Denise  Ok I love them
20:42:06   Carol45  I ate a sweet potato the other night and was surprised that it raised my blood sugar as much as a regular potato would have.
20:42:38   Denise  Kristina I wish you would put out a cookbook for us, I need ideas, also could you suggest one?
20:42:43   kristina  Most days but not every day. I no longer have chemical sensitivities, my energy is fabulous, I don't look sick anymore but I now believe that I haven't fully tackled my hormones, which keeps my tendency to gut inflammation up.
20:43:06   kristina  You always need to eat protein with all starchy vegetables.
20:43:17   kristina  Do you know how many grams of protein you eat per meal, Carol?
20:43:51   kristina  Spagetti squash makes fun noodles that you can dress up just like pasta
20:44:32   Denise  Now that I have stopped eating meat, I get little protein this may be messing me up, and yes I do like spaghetti squash
20:45:13   kristina  I eat meat at EVERY meal. I eat every 2-3 hours. I eat 1-2 pound of grass-fed meat most days
20:45:29   Denise  Could I eat the pulp from my juicing veggies to get the fiber?
20:46:01   Denise  aren't you afraid of the cholesterol and fat in your blood?
20:46:30   Carol45  Not for sure. 12 - 14 oz of Kefir at approx. 7, 11, and 2, then salad and 4-6 oz meat for supper. Back to my bad habits of not 'eating' all day long - or drinking enough water at work.
20:46:33   kristina  This means that I eat 100-200 grams of protein each day.
20:46:42   kristina  yes, you can eat the pulp
20:47:07   kristina  No, I am absolutely not afraid of cholesterol or fat. I have written about this extensively in my book.
20:47:14   Denise  Are you in ketosis and are your kidneys okay?
20:47:58   kristina  saturated fats are needed for energy, hormone production, cellular membranes and for organ padding
20:48:14   Denise  I'll have to read about this, there is so much information in every direction from ...
20:48:38   kristina  People with high cholesterol live the longest.
20:49:15   Carol45  I'm convinced that the cholesterol drugs are far worse for you.
20:49:16   kristina  Yes, there is SO VERY MUCH information coming from every direction. I, too, struggle with this.
20:49:22   Denise  So is it misinformation that high cholesterol caused heart attacks etc.
20:49:31   Denise  I am sure you must?
20:50:01   Carol45  I know I feel a whole lot better when I follow Kristina's diet and her book.
20:50:29   kristina  Yes, there is SO VERY MUCH information coming from every direction. I, too, struggle with this.
20:50:39   m2bozz  How do I get more information about HTMA?
20:50:59   kristina  That was weird-my whole post was deleted and a repeat post came out instead?
20:51:12   Lisa  The best source of iron is in red meat, and I feel much better when I have red meat in my diet.
20:51:34   Denise  do you eat it raw?
20:51:37   kristina  My book is a great place to read about the importance of fat in the diet, as is the book Nourishing Traditions, as is the website www.westonaprice.org
20:51:43   kristina  Sometimes
20:52:05   Lisa  No, I can't get use to raw meat, but I don't over cook it.
20:52:16   kristina  Here is a link to more information about HTMA.
20:52:17   Denise  What about parasites and e coli?
20:52:50   kristina  Yes, it is misinformaiton that high cholesterol causes heart attacks.
20:53:00   Carol45  Since I know exactly where my beef comes from, I can eat it as rare as possible - and have nibbled on raw.
20:53:11   kristina  But it is not an exception; there are now a large number of findings that contradict the lipid hypothesis. To be more specific, most studies of old people have shown that high cholesterol is not a risk factor for coronary heart disease.
20:53:18   Denise  Would vegetable fats be equally beneficial and if not why?
20:53:58   m2bozz  Will htma help with diagnosing non-hereditary hair loss?
20:54:09   kristina  No, most vegetable fats are not equally beneficial because they are not the same type of fat
20:54:19   kristina  They are unstable at high temperatures.
20:54:36   Carol45  I love my coconut oil.
20:54:38   Denise  What if you eat them fresh?
20:54:42   kristina  Yes, the HTMA will help.
20:54:53   Denise  and do they need to be saturated?
20:55:09   Denise  to be of benifet
20:55:29   Denise  benefit rather
20:55:41   kristina  Raw is often better, not always but vegetables are excellent for minerals and vitamins and fiber but they just don't have the type of fatty acids that you will need to heal fully
20:55:54   kristina  One needs saturated fats in order to be healthy.
20:56:27   Dave  Next chat?
20:56:54   Carol45  That late already?
20:56:55   Denise  Thank you for all your help


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