| 20:02:05 |
kristina |
Hello everyone. Glad you could join us. Sorry about the time confusion. |
| 20:02:09 |
Lisa |
At least there is the four of us! |
| 20:02:26 |
Lisa |
That's okay Kris! |
| 20:02:57 |
kristina |
I have a fabulous conference in Michigan. |
| 20:03:08 |
Mike K |
no big deal I'm always confused |
| 20:03:21 |
Dave |
Tell us about it |
| 20:03:22 |
Lisa |
Great! I'm looking forward to hearing about that! |
| 20:03:27 |
kristina |
I had a booth at the Weston A. Price Regional conference. Next year, I have been asked back as a speaker. |
| 20:03:31 |
kristina |
I am thrilled. |
| 20:03:47 |
Dave |
Any plans to do the national one near me? |
| 20:03:53 |
Lisa |
How wonderful Kris!! |
| 20:04:30 |
Lisa |
I bet you sold many books there! |
| 20:04:58 |
kristina |
Each year, the Weston A. Price has a national conference near to Washington, D.C. |
| 20:05:15 |
Lisa |
Are you going to that one too? |
| 20:05:23 |
kristina |
Here are some excerpts from the WAPF national conference:
Wise Traditions 2007 A Showcase for Delicious Traditional Food A Unique Opportunity for Health Professionals and Laymen interested in Farming, Diet and Health Who Should Attend Wise Traditions? Doctors, nurses, nutritionists, dietitians, parents, students, food writers, food providers, farmers, public servants, teachers, patients, activists, agriculture professionals, people interested in nutrition, people with no interest in nutrition, people who love to cook, people who hate to cook, people who like to eat, Baby Boomers concerned about their health, grandparents concerned about their grandchildren, couples who want healthy babies, people who want answers, people who love controversy. . . and You! |
| 20:05:46 |
kristina |
Featured Speakers: * Jen Allbritton, CN, author of the Growing Wise Kids series * Jerry Brunetti, expert on soil fertility and human health * Natasha Campbell-McBride, MD, author of The Gut and Psychology Syndrome * Thomas Cowan, MD, author of The Fourfold Path to Healing * Kaayla T. Daniel, PhD, author of The Whole Soy Story * Carol Esche, RN, DNP, MA, CNA, expert on holistic nursing * Mary Enig, PhD, author of Know Your Fats * Sally Fallon, MA, author of Nourishing Traditions * Dennis Frerking, DC, enzyme expert * Donna Gates, author of The Body Ecology Diet * Doug Gunnink, soil and forage expert * Philip Incao, MD, anthroposophic physician * Chris Masterjohn, WAPF chapter leader and researcher * Mary Megson, MD, expert on the treatment of autism * Vinny Pinto, expert on effective microorganisms * Kathryn Pirtle, author of Performance without Pain * Jessica Prentice, author of Full Moon Feast * Marianne Rothschild, MD, holistic physician * Michael Schmidt, Canadian raw milk activist * Sherry Tenpenny, MD, vaccination expert * Harvey Ussery, founder of themodernhomestead.us * Donna Wild, nutritionist, herbalist and educator and many other fine speakers on diet and health, as well as seminars and sessions on: * Backyard Farming * Testing for Nutritional Deficiencies * Community Kitchens * Nutrition for Teens and Young Adults * Vaccinations and Autism * Nutrition for Child Development * Digestive Health * Soil Fertility * Practical Cooking and Healing Plans |
| 20:06:06 |
kristina |
The conference I went to is a much smaller conference but with fabulous speakers. |
| 20:06:27 |
Lisa |
That's all that matters! |
| 20:07:05 |
kristina |
This is an event not to be missed in Michigan and surrounding states and complements the highly regarded National Weston A. Price Conference "Wise Traditions" held annually in Washington D.C. for the past 7 years. A unique opportunity to hear an inspirational range of expert speakers on important nutrition and health topics providing essential learning for our own personal quests in achieving optimal health. In addition we will showcase delicious nutrient dense foods and drinks as validated by Weston A. Price throughout both days including hors d’oeuvre’s, snacks, lunch and drinks. All food will be organic, mainly local, nutrient dense and delicious! |
| 20:07:37 |
kristina |
If you go to http://www.wisetraditionsmichigan.org/index.html, you can see that Optimal Health Network was a sponsor. |
| 20:07:54 |
kristina |
Also, I learned a lot from a particular speaker named Dr. Janet Lang. |
| 20:08:09 |
kristina |
She teaches how to balance male and female hormones. |
| 20:08:30 |
Lisa |
Hello winwip! Are you new here? If you want too, you can tell us about yourself. |
| 20:08:34 |
Dave |
Were they as open-minded to colon hydrotherapy/therapeutic enemas as hoped? |
| 20:08:47 |
kristina |
In practice for 27 years, Dr. Land now dedicates her time to ongoing research and teaching professionals seminars across the country on the following topics: * Balancing Female Hormones Naturally * Balancing Male Steroid Hormones Naturally * Thyroid, Adrenals, and Blood Sugar * The Cardiovascular System |
| 20:09:37 |
kristina |
Yes, many people at the conference were very pleased to see us there. We had an assortment of enema equipment, which we sold. We did also sell quite a few of my book on colon cleansing and nutrition, Kristina Amelong's Ten Days to Optimal Health. |
| 20:09:47 |
winwip |
I am new to the chatroom! I want to educate myself on how to get healthy. |
| 20:10:03 |
kristina |
Are you having any symptoms of ill health, winwip? |
| 20:10:22 |
Lisa |
That great winwip. Glad to have you here! |
| 20:11:03 |
winwip |
I have a whole and I do mean whole host of conditions and problems. |
| 20:11:53 |
kristina |
You would be welcome to share what is going on with you. I bet we can start you on the path to excellent health! |
| 20:12:17 |
Lisa |
Hi Denise! Glad more people are joining us now! |
| 20:12:37 |
winwip |
OK! |
| 20:13:14 |
Dave |
Given that enema equipment not readily available as in earlier years. I figured you'd have buyers. |
| 20:13:20 |
kristina |
By listening to Dr. Lang, I was able to connect for myself how the adrenal stress response and associated blood sugar challenges effect both female and male hormone. |
| 20:13:41 |
Denise |
sorry I couldn't figure out where to type now I am good and Hello All |
| 20:14:38 |
Lisa |
Nice to have new members! Do you know about our message board? |
| 20:14:39 |
kristina |
And, what we can do about improving one's health using saliva readings. |
| 20:15:04 |
Dave |
Are you a newbie on the forum too, Denise? |
| 20:15:14 |
Denise |
Yes, I have been reading them for years and they are very helpful |
| 20:15:49 |
kristina |
Another subject that fascinated me at the conference was the connection between the mechanism of liver-gall bladder hormone detoxification and excretion and the necessity to facilitate this process in managing female problems. |
| 20:16:07 |
kristina |
Hi Denise. Good to see you here tonight. |
| 20:16:20 |
Dave |
This is the place to get instant answers and others' experiences. |
| 20:16:23 |
Denise |
Thank you. Hello |
| 20:17:02 |
Denise |
I want to listen and learn and don't feel that I know enough about my problem to comment yet |
| 20:17:47 |
kristina |
So, more on hormones: Let's start with the adrenal glands: |
| 20:18:08 |
kristina |
Abnormal adrenal function can alter the ability of cells to produce energy for activities of daily living. People who have a hard time rising in the morning, or who suffer with a low energy level during the day, often have abnormal adrenal rhythms and poor blood sugar regulation. |
| 20:18:24 |
kristina |
Abnormal adrenal rhythms are known to compromise tissue healing. Reduced tissue repair and increased tissue breakdown can lead to muscle and joint breakdown with chronic pain. |
| 20:18:43 |
kristina |
The adrenal rhythm determines how well we build bone. If the night cortisol level is elevated and the morning level is too high, our bones do not rebuild well, and we are more prone to the osteoporotic process. Stress is the enemy of the bones. In postmenopausal women, the effect of stress worsens due to the female hormone imbalances. |
| 20:19:00 |
Denise |
And as I learned today can cause constipation in some? |
| 20:19:09 |
kristina |
Various immune cells (white blood cells) cycle in and out of the spleen and bone marrow for special conditioning, and possible nourishment and instructions. This immune system trafficking follows the cortisol cycle. So, if the cycle is disrupted, especially at night, then the immune system is adversely affected. Short and long-term stress is known to suppress the immune response on the surfaces of our body as in lungs, throat, urinary and intestinal tract. With the reduction in the surface antibody (called secretory IgA), the resistance to infection is reduced and allergic reactions are believed to increase. |
| 20:19:20 |
kristina |
Yes, and constipation... |
| 20:19:30 |
kristina |
The ability to enter REM sleep cycles, i.e. regenerative sleep, is interrupted by high cortisol values at night and in the morning. Chronic lack of REM sleep can reduce the mental vitality and vigor of a person and induce depression. |
| 20:19:44 |
kristina |
Human skin regenerates mostly during the night. With higher night cortisol values, less skin regeneration takes place. So, a normal cortisol rhythm is essential for optimal skin health. |
| 20:19:58 |
kristina |
The level of cortisol at the cell level controls thyroid hormone production. Quite often, hypothyroid symptoms such as fatigue and low body temperature are due to an adrenal maladaptation. |
| 20:20:12 |
kristina |
About 12-18% of the U.S. population suffers from a genetic intolerance to grain. Specifically, a high incidence occurs in Celtic, Germanic, and Nordic derivation. The gut becomes inflamed within 30 minutes after consuming the grains and this can lead to an adrenal stress response, increased cortisol and reduced DHEA. |
| 20:20:43 |
Denise |
I was told to take my body temp upon wakening to see if I have low thyroid and it was low - is this what you mean? |
| 20:21:39 |
kristina |
As you can see, making sure your adrenals and your adrenal hormones are functioning properly are key to good health. |
| 20:21:54 |
Denise |
Is this siliac? |
| 20:22:10 |
kristina |
Yes, low temperature is one indicator of an underfunctioning thyroid. |
| 20:22:23 |
kristina |
Yes, celiac |
| 20:22:44 |
kristina |
But, also Leaky Gut Syndrome and IBS |
| 20:22:47 |
Denise |
not a good speller on the spot |
| 20:23:03 |
kristina |
just fine. just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same things |
| 20:24:03 |
Denise |
I have never felt the symptoms of irritable bowel - just the constpation. could I still have the celiac? |
| 20:24:12 |
winwip |
I am dealing with asthma, bi-polar with hipomania, breast cancer (remission), COPD, fibromyalgia, lymphodemia, thyroid (Hashimoto), vertigo from a recent accident which includes, blurred vision and memory problems. I was on 15 different medicines. |
| 20:24:13 |
kristina |
Yes and no. |
| 20:25:24 |
Denise |
Hopefully I will find out after this week, with Kristina's help I am going off of grains for the week to see if it helps. |
| 20:25:54 |
kristina |
You can have an grain intolerance that causes you ill health but isn't necessarily a "condition." |
| 20:26:09 |
kristina |
Go Denise!!! |
| 20:26:21 |
kristina |
Winwip, that is a tough list of health problems. |
| 20:26:41 |
winwip |
I have more! |
| 20:26:57 |
kristina |
What things have you done to improve your health up to this point? |
| 20:26:58 |
Denise |
Thanks I need the cheering on, its not going to be easy I love my grains! |
| 20:27:29 |
Carol45 |
Good evening. I've missed you all. |
| 20:27:42 |
kristina |
Yes, grains are the heart of many the diet..and for good reason...they are yummy, soft, sweet, filling, and more.. |
| 20:27:49 |
kristina |
Hi Carol, welcome! |
| 20:27:50 |
Dave |
More the merrier, Carol |
| 20:28:05 |
Denise |
Hello |
| 20:28:25 |
Lisa |
Hi Carol! We all missed you, and am glad you can join us tonight! How are you doing Carol? |
| 20:28:36 |
Carol45 |
See you're talking about grains. I have found them hard to totally give up also. |
| 20:28:39 |
kristina |
Denise, make sure that you find other treats...hanging with a special friend, sitting in a sauna, music, movies, baby carrots...hehehe |
| 20:29:20 |
Denise |
Yes, I will have to get creative, |
| 20:29:57 |
kristina |
Carol, as I was talking about earlier, but you aren't able to read any longer, I will now be doing tests that detect gluten antibodies and helps identify grain intolerance |
| 20:30:20 |
Carol45 |
Oh - what a great idea! |
| 20:30:32 |
kristina |
Here is more about the testing: |
| 20:30:34 |
kristina |
The Adrenal Stress Index™ (ASI™) - Four saliva samples are used in the ASI™ for the following ten tests: 4 x Cortisol - Helps evaluate stress response; 2 x Insulin - Helps investigate blood sugar control; DHEA - Helps determine stress adaptation; Secretory IgA - Helps evaluate toll on immunity; 17-OH Progesterone - Helps determine adrenal reserve |
| 20:30:45 |
Denise |
That sounds like something I may need in the future |
| 20:31:28 |
Carol45 |
Sounds like this needs to be done in your office - ? |
| 20:31:34 |
kristina |
Carol, how is your health these days? |
| 20:31:40 |
Carol45 |
Stinks |
| 20:31:59 |
Denise |
Is the information available from the seminar that you recently went to Kristina, it sounds like it was packed with information? |
| 20:32:14 |
kristina |
The test is non-invasive and can be performed wherever you are. Saliva is collected in vials that are sent to your home. |
| 20:32:17 |
Carol45 |
Guess it isn't that bad as I'm working every day, but getting little done at home. |
| 20:32:58 |
Carol45 |
I need to get your book out and start all over again from scratch. |
| 20:33:50 |
kristina |
I have been studying non-stop since I arrived home from the seminar and I have been studying this stuff for over two years but hadn't run into this mentor, yet. I have been working with thyroid, progesterone, vitamin D and more through my work with Metabolic Typing and Ray Peat. |
| 20:33:57 |
Carol45 |
Is the new test listed on the site? I just got a different monitor - have been having problems seeing and using the top of the screen correctly - so haven't been on the computer much. |
| 20:34:19 |
Denise |
Has anyone here gone off of all grains and how has it been for you? |
| 20:34:57 |
Carol45 |
When I cheat and eat them I feel rotten the next day. |
| 20:35:32 |
kristina |
The testing is only available at this point through a phone call. Technically, we are putting all our energies into launching our new website in November so I won't be able to add new products to the site until the site is launched and all the bugs are worked out. Call Dee Dee anytime if you have more questions, or email me at kristina@optimalhealthnetwork.com |
| 20:36:00 |
Denise |
So it does help you to refrain from them I presume? |
| 20:36:17 |
kristina |
I haven't eaten any grains for probably about 9 years. The healing I have been able to do is tremendous, both emotionally and physically. |
| 20:36:59 |
Denise |
Do you ever miss eating pizza or sandwiches or pasta? |
| 20:37:00 |
Carol45 |
Still no answer from the hair test lab via the chiropractor's office :{ so will be contanting Dee Dee on that subject also. |
| 20:37:24 |
Dave |
What replaces fiber in grains to keep the system open and working? |
| 20:37:27 |
Carol45 |
Rye bread |
| 20:37:51 |
kristina |
However, I did this work over many, many months of being very sick, grieving the loss of my beloved foods as well as all the loss that was connected to my lifestyle choices, like my brother dying... |
| 20:38:02 |
kristina |
Vegetables and fruits. |
| 20:38:24 |
Carol45 |
I meant I miss rye bread. Typed too slow. |
| 20:39:00 |
Carol45 |
Lisa, how did your last trip go? |
| 20:39:04 |
kristina |
Avocado Beans Broccoli* Brussels sprouts* Cabbage* Carrot Chick Peas/Garbanzo Beans Eggplant Greens -- collards, kale, turnip greens* Lima beans Mushrooms Potato with skin Pumpkin, canned Peas -- black-eyed peas, green peas Peppers Rhubarb Spinach* Sweet Potatoes |
| 20:39:32 |
Denise |
Kristina do you also do the meat and dairy along with veggies and fruits and are all the vegies you eat cooked? |
| 20:39:43 |
Lisa |
Carol, I have not left yet. I'll be leaving November 1st to Berlin Germany! |
| 20:39:49 |
kristina |
The vegetables with an asterisk are also goitrogenic, meaning that they promote thyroid enlargement and can potentially cause or aggravate hypothyroidism. Typically, the risk is highest when these foods are consumed raw, regularly, and in substantial quantity. Cooking eliminates most goitrogenic properties. |
| 20:40:01 |
kristina |
Highest Fiber Fruits Apples Avocado Bananas Berries -- Blueberies, Blackberries, Raspberries, etc. Dried Fruits -- Figs, Raisins, Apricots, Dates, etc. Guava Kiwi Orange Pears Prunes |
| 20:40:46 |
Denise |
so I can eat bananas? I was told to stay away because they may be constipating? |
| 20:40:47 |
kristina |
I do but since I was so very, very sick I have come to not miss any of it because I love be well SO VERY MUCH!! |
| 20:41:21 |
Denise |
Are you in good health now? |
| 20:41:23 |
kristina |
Yes, for some, bananas are constipating. I would limit those but you can have 1/2 a banana every other day or so... |
| 20:41:37 |
Dave |
Looks like there are plenty of alternatives to grain. |
| 20:41:41 |
Denise |
Ok I love them |
| 20:42:06 |
Carol45 |
I ate a sweet potato the other night and was surprised that it raised my blood sugar as much as a regular potato would have. |
| 20:42:38 |
Denise |
Kristina I wish you would put out a cookbook for us, I need ideas, also could you suggest one? |
| 20:42:43 |
kristina |
Most days but not every day. I no longer have chemical sensitivities, my energy is fabulous, I don't look sick anymore but I now believe that I haven't fully tackled my hormones, which keeps my tendency to gut inflammation up. |
| 20:43:06 |
kristina |
You always need to eat protein with all starchy vegetables. |
| 20:43:17 |
kristina |
Do you know how many grams of protein you eat per meal, Carol? |
| 20:43:51 |
kristina |
Spagetti squash makes fun noodles that you can dress up just like pasta |
| 20:44:32 |
Denise |
Now that I have stopped eating meat, I get little protein this may be messing me up, and yes I do like spaghetti squash |
| 20:45:13 |
kristina |
I eat meat at EVERY meal. I eat every 2-3 hours. I eat 1-2 pound of grass-fed meat most days |
| 20:45:29 |
Denise |
Could I eat the pulp from my juicing veggies to get the fiber? |
| 20:46:01 |
Denise |
aren't you afraid of the cholesterol and fat in your blood? |
| 20:46:30 |
Carol45 |
Not for sure. 12 - 14 oz of Kefir at approx. 7, 11, and 2, then salad and 4-6 oz meat for supper. Back to my bad habits of not 'eating' all day long - or drinking enough water at work. |
| 20:46:33 |
kristina |
This means that I eat 100-200 grams of protein each day. |
| 20:46:42 |
kristina |
yes, you can eat the pulp |
| 20:47:07 |
kristina |
No, I am absolutely not afraid of cholesterol or fat. I have written about this extensively in my book. |
| 20:47:14 |
Denise |
Are you in ketosis and are your kidneys okay? |
| 20:47:58 |
kristina |
saturated fats are needed for energy, hormone production, cellular membranes and for organ padding |
| 20:48:14 |
Denise |
I'll have to read about this, there is so much information in every direction from ... |
| 20:48:38 |
kristina |
People with high cholesterol live the longest. |
| 20:49:15 |
Carol45 |
I'm convinced that the cholesterol drugs are far worse for you. |
| 20:49:16 |
kristina |
Yes, there is SO VERY MUCH information coming from every direction. I, too, struggle with this. |
| 20:49:22 |
Denise |
So is it misinformation that high cholesterol caused heart attacks etc. |
| 20:49:31 |
Denise |
I am sure you must? |
| 20:50:01 |
Carol45 |
I know I feel a whole lot better when I follow Kristina's diet and her book. |
| 20:50:29 |
kristina |
Yes, there is SO VERY MUCH information coming from every direction. I, too, struggle with this. |
| 20:50:39 |
m2bozz |
How do I get more information about HTMA? |
| 20:50:59 |
kristina |
That was weird-my whole post was deleted and a repeat post came out instead? |
| 20:51:12 |
Lisa |
The best source of iron is in red meat, and I feel much better when I have red meat in my diet. |
| 20:51:34 |
Denise |
do you eat it raw? |
| 20:51:37 |
kristina |
My book is a great place to read about the importance of fat in the diet, as is the book Nourishing Traditions, as is the website www.westonaprice.org |
| 20:51:43 |
kristina |
Sometimes |
| 20:52:05 |
Lisa |
No, I can't get use to raw meat, but I don't over cook it. |
| 20:52:16 |
kristina |
Here is a link to more information about HTMA. |
| 20:52:17 |
Denise |
What about parasites and e coli? |
| 20:52:50 |
kristina |
Yes, it is misinformaiton that high cholesterol causes heart attacks. |
| 20:53:00 |
Carol45 |
Since I know exactly where my beef comes from, I can eat it as rare as possible - and have nibbled on raw. |
| 20:53:11 |
kristina |
But it is not an exception; there are now a large number of findings that contradict the lipid hypothesis. To be more specific, most studies of old people have shown that high cholesterol is not a risk factor for coronary heart disease. |
| 20:53:18 |
Denise |
Would vegetable fats be equally beneficial and if not why? |
| 20:53:58 |
m2bozz |
Will htma help with diagnosing non-hereditary hair loss? |
| 20:54:09 |
kristina |
No, most vegetable fats are not equally beneficial because they are not the same type of fat |
| 20:54:19 |
kristina |
They are unstable at high temperatures. |
| 20:54:36 |
Carol45 |
I love my coconut oil. |
| 20:54:38 |
Denise |
What if you eat them fresh? |
| 20:54:42 |
kristina |
Yes, the HTMA will help. |
| 20:54:53 |
Denise |
and do they need to be saturated? |
| 20:55:09 |
Denise |
to be of benifet |
| 20:55:29 |
Denise |
benefit rather |
| 20:55:41 |
kristina |
Raw is often better, not always but vegetables are excellent for minerals and vitamins and fiber but they just don't have the type of fatty acids that you will need to heal fully |
| 20:55:54 |
kristina |
One needs saturated fats in order to be healthy. |
| 20:56:27 |
Dave |
Next chat? |
| 20:56:54 |
Carol45 |
That late already? |
| 20:56:55 |
Denise |
Thank you for all your help |