| 19:54:27 |
Carol45 |
Hi early birds! |
| 19:54:40 |
billythekid |
Hi, Kristina and Carol45 |
| 19:56:30 |
billythekid |
I have a quick question: What is the safest LOW temperature for a coffee enema? I have trouble holding the enema if the temperature is in the 100 degree range. |
| 19:57:02 |
Dave |
Hi all, Dave here |
| 19:57:46 |
Kristina |
Hello all |
| 19:57:50 |
Lisa |
Hi Everyone! It looks like our usual crew is here! |
| 19:58:09 |
Carol45 |
Good to see you. |
| 19:58:24 |
Lisa |
How was your Xmas vacation? |
| 19:58:36 |
Kristina |
Low temperature enemas have been used for people who have a fever, to lower it. |
| 19:58:43 |
TomIA |
Hello, my first visit |
| 19:59:17 |
Carol45 |
Seeing family at Christmas always goes by too fast. |
| 19:59:33 |
Kristina |
As far as how low, I don't know an exact temperature but I imagine that you can go as low as 70 degrees |
| 19:59:35 |
Lisa |
Kris, did you get enough sun on your vacation? |
| 19:59:47 |
Kristina |
I didn't go because I had too much work to do. I will go in the summer |
| 19:59:50 |
Dave |
I think cool water enemas for high fever were standard, at least in 'my day.' |
| 20:00:01 |
Kristina |
Hi Tom! Welcome. |
| 20:00:04 |
billythekid |
Thank You, Kristina. |
| 20:00:10 |
Carol45 |
Would the temperature change the effects of the coffee? |
| 20:00:22 |
Kristina |
Not that I know of but, truly, I don't know. |
| 20:00:36 |
TomIA |
Wondering if it would be best to make a personal visit for a hydrotherapy before investing into the silicone system with colon tube? |
| 20:00:51 |
Kristina |
Tom, it depends on what you are looking for. |
| 20:01:10 |
Carol45 |
Interesting - a rerun of MASH had a warm water enema prescribed for a patient with hypothermia. |
| 20:01:37 |
Dave |
I think that's standard too. |
| 20:01:51 |
Kristina |
Taking enemas to fully cleanse your entire colon is easy, once you know what you are doing. We have very detailed instructions in the Silicone Flowmaster that will guide you through the process. |
| 20:02:04 |
TomIA |
Looking to see if I could improve overall health by improving habits and cleansing? |
| 20:02:10 |
Kristina |
We also have a wealth of information on both www.optimalhealthnetwork.com and on www.enemabag.com. |
| 20:02:43 |
Kristina |
However, if you need assistance with any type of ill health situation, you might want the wisdom and experience of a colon hydrotherapist. |
| 20:02:55 |
ealincoln |
What do you think about castor oil packs? |
| 20:02:57 |
Hogman |
I'm not sure how to keep the nozzle in Kris...do you still charge $90? |
| 20:02:58 |
Kristina |
Just make sure that the colon therapist that you plan to visit is knowledgeable. |
| 20:03:06 |
TomIA |
I have bought the downloads on large enema and the hydro procedure |
| 20:03:51 |
Kristina |
Tom, then getting your own system and viewing the DVD, Cleansing, Coffee Enemas and Colon Tubes ought to be an excellent starting place. |
| 20:04:13 |
Hogman |
I've tried 3 times to do it myself, and the nozzle keeps coming out |
| 20:04:25 |
Kristina |
I think castor oil packs are an excellent healing tool. What do you think about them? Why are you thinking of using them? |
| 20:04:32 |
TomIA |
Your location is a few hours but as close as any I have found plus I travel to WI often and could combine the travel |
| 20:04:48 |
ealincoln |
Just reading about them in Fourfold Path to Healing and am still not regular |
| 20:04:58 |
Kristina |
Yes, for an enema series, we do charge $90. You could try a phone consult, which is cheaper at $1.40 per minute. |
| 20:05:06 |
TomIA |
Does the new 70D colon tube have the delrin tip? |
| 20:05:09 |
Kristina |
You might also invest in an enema retention nozzle. |
| 20:05:28 |
Kristina |
We would love to work with you, Tom. |
| 20:05:56 |
Lisa |
Tom, it's worth the trip! I went to OHC all the way from Texas!! |
| 20:06:12 |
TomIA |
I just recieved my order with the retention nozzle and peppermint oil |
| 20:06:13 |
Kristina |
Most people aren't going to fully improve, if improve at all, their regularity with the use of castor oil packs. |
| 20:06:28 |
Kristina |
What is the 70D colon tube that you refer to? |
| 20:06:40 |
Kristina |
Great |
| 20:06:58 |
TomIA |
The new 70 durometer colon tube on the website? Should do the colon hydro versus the enema route if I visit? |
| 20:07:19 |
Kristina |
Ealincoln, can you tell me more about your situation? |
| 20:07:37 |
Lisa |
Tom, I did both when I was there. |
| 20:07:58 |
ealincoln |
It's Elizabeth. I'm taking the Ashwaganda & Licorice for adrenal fatigue and hypothyroid. |
| 20:08:09 |
TomIA |
Both on the same visit? |
| 20:08:11 |
ealincoln |
Under your supervision |
| 20:08:12 |
Kristina |
Tom, it depends whether or not you wish to learn more about taking enemas or just have a good colon cleanse. Both will cleanse the colon. The enema series will teach you more about how to take enemas at home. The colon hydrotherapy session will not. |
| 20:08:45 |
Hogman |
also Fris... do you know of a place to get a prostate massage. You mention it is good for the prostate |
| 20:10:15 |
Lisa |
How nice we have a lot of people here today! |
| 20:10:23 |
Carol45 |
I have a question about adding salt to the enema solution. I had a very bad exerience getting dizzy and sick when taking a soapwater enema years ago. Is it possible for that to happen when the correct amount of salt is used? |
| 20:10:37 |
Kristina |
no, item 668 does not have a delrin cap. |
| 20:10:55 |
Mike |
Kris - In a three series does soap / coffee & salt make sense? |
| 20:10:56 |
Kristina |
Only items with a 669 have a delrin cap |
| 20:11:37 |
Dave |
Since hydrotherapists are scarce in many places, the enema series probably is the most beneficial. |
| 20:11:59 |
Kristina |
Hi Elizabeth. How are you doing? How much fiber are you eating? |
| 20:12:18 |
Kristina |
No, I do not know of a place to get a prostate massage. |
| 20:12:45 |
ealincoln |
Probably not enough. I'm trying to increase the amount I'm eating but the majority of my calories have been coming from raw milk products and bone broth soups w/ egg. |
| 20:13:31 |
michael b |
a wonderful winter to all, kristina, i read the tornado last tue.was the only 2ond.on record,since 1967, wow. |
| 20:14:03 |
Kristina |
Carol, salt in an enema won't ameloriate a negative reaction to soap. What might ameloriate a negative reaction to soap in an enema is using only therapeutic enema soaps. |
| 20:14:34 |
TomIA |
You mention the grapefruit extract for dogs water, will that help with breath odor or what, I just bought some from your site for bag cleaning wondered what it might do for animal |
| 20:14:49 |
Kristina |
Can you add a handful of carrots in your daily diet, or some other fiber rich food? |
| 20:15:05 |
Carol45 |
Kris. It hasn't happened using your goat milk soap, but i am very careful to add the salt, except for the coffee implant. |
| 20:15:26 |
ealincoln |
Have been trying to eat more vegetables generally and will try to increase |
| 20:15:47 |
Kristina |
Weird, eh, on the weather, plus a 100 car crash about 5 miles from my house. |
| 20:16:44 |
Dave |
how's the new Web site coming along? |
| 20:17:35 |
michael b |
speaking of cars, did you get yours back? |
| 20:18:21 |
Carol45 |
I take it then it was the (Ivory) soap that caused the problem, and with plain water it shouldn't happen? I would like to take a series in the mornings now that I'm retired. But am afraid of a reaction on a day when I have a late morning appointment. |
| 20:19:24 |
Kristina |
Grapefruit Seed Extract kills worms, viruses, fungus and more and helps keep animals healthier. |
| 20:19:51 |
Hogman |
Kristina, which is better for a colon cleanse series......knees to chest with butt in air.....or on back with tube between legs? Which procedure do you use? |
| 20:19:52 |
ealincoln |
How much Grapefruit Seed Extract should be added to how much water? |
| 20:19:52 |
billythekid |
Carol45, if there is too much of anything in your stomach at the time of the enema you will experience the symptoms you described regardless of what kind of enema it is. That has been my experience in the past. |
| 20:20:26 |
Kristina |
Carol, I don't think the salt mediates any negative effect on the colon from the enema soap but rather years ago you used a soap that had an ingredient that your colon reacted to negatively. |
| 20:21:05 |
Kristina |
Elizabeth: Great! Remind me, are you taking any magnesium? |
| 20:21:10 |
Carol45 |
Negative is right. i thought i was going to pass out. |
| 20:21:26 |
Kristina |
Whatever procedure one prefers. |
| 20:21:26 |
TomIA |
Theres a note online about how many drops for pet water |
| 20:21:36 |
Dave |
Ivory was the traditional ingredient of choice years ago, but i use castile or the goat milk soap, much milder. |
| 20:21:37 |
ealincoln |
Yes, & calcium (both from Standard Processes) & zinc |
| 20:21:43 |
Kristina |
Elizabeth, what for what use? |
| 20:21:59 |
Kristina |
How many capsules of magnesium? |
| 20:22:13 |
ealincoln |
3 per day with the calcium with meals |
| 20:22:57 |
Kristina |
let's increase the magnesium to 2 capsules, three times per day, okay? Also, how many calcium? |
| 20:23:02 |
Hogman |
Thank you kris |
| 20:23:02 |
TomIA |
If I did the visit with you for the emema would we use the colon tube? I would purchase the system there if was locally available |
| 20:23:13 |
ealincoln |
2 tablets 3x/day |
| 20:23:15 |
Kristina |
We use the enema system that you provide. |
| 20:23:25 |
Kristina |
Great on the calcium |
| 20:23:30 |
ealincoln |
OK |
| 20:23:46 |
ealincoln |
increasing the magnesium should help with regularity? |
| 20:23:50 |
TomIA |
Would I need to mail order and bring it with me or could I pick it up at the visit |
| 20:24:56 |
Carol45 |
ealincoln, I have found that the magnesium has greatly helped me with regularity. |
| 20:24:59 |
Lisa |
Tom, I picked up mine in my visit. Much easier. |
| 20:25:06 |
ealincoln |
Thanks, Carol |
| 20:25:25 |
Kristina |
Yes, increasing the magnesium will help with regularity. The body has what is called a "bowel tolerance" for magnesium. Once you are taking too much magnesium, you will get diarrhea |
| 20:25:35 |
ealincoln |
I'm trying to educate myself on what vitamins and minerals do what |
| 20:25:38 |
ealincoln |
OK. |
| 20:25:46 |
Lisa |
And Tom, that way you don't have to pay postage! |
| 20:25:46 |
Kristina |
Good for you! |
| 20:26:00 |
TomIA |
Would we do a small and large emema per your download video on the same visit? |
| 20:26:02 |
Carol45 |
Kristina has been a great help to me with the supplements. |
| 20:26:11 |
ealincoln |
Indeed |
| 20:26:38 |
Kristina |
Yes, you get a total of 3 enemas during a 90-minute enema series here at the Optimal Health Center. |
| 20:26:49 |
TomIA |
I was not sure if the stock was onsite at the clinic |
| 20:27:08 |
Kristina |
Thanks, Carol. How are you feeling these days with your new supplement protocol? |
| 20:27:31 |
Lisa |
Yes, it's on site. Very handy. |
| 20:27:31 |
Kristina |
Yes, our shipping department is right here at our Center |
| 20:27:44 |
TomIA |
I will call and discuss the lead time for an appointment sounds like the way to start this off right |
| 20:28:32 |
Lisa |
Tom, you can have a massage and sauna too! It's so relaxing!! |
| 20:28:50 |
Carol45 |
Better than I was, but for a while I was sure dragging. Guess I'm still not getting the right kind of rest. That old habit of pushing myself to finish something is a hard one to break. |
| 20:29:06 |
Kristina |
Yes, Tom, and when you call to make your appointment, if you know what enema equipment you will want, order it at that point so that we may set it aside for you as we do occassionally run into back order situations. |
| 20:29:07 |
ealincoln |
I hear you, Carol |
| 20:29:17 |
Dave |
You will be happy, Tom, from the voices of experience. |
| 20:30:03 |
TomIA |
I will look into the sauna and massage options as well |
| 20:30:06 |
Carol45 |
A nice relaxing massage sounds so inviting! |
| 20:30:11 |
Kristina |
I, too, hear you, Carol. The demands of life are often stronger than the wisdom regarding how much sleep and what type of sleep one knows they need. |
| 20:30:31 |
TomIA |
Never done that, have given many to my wife but never treated myself |
| 20:31:10 |
Kristina |
Yes, we do have a fabulous situation here with the center offering a FIR sauna, a massage followed by a colon cleanse. It is a unique therapeutic experience. |
| 20:31:31 |
TomIA |
2-3 hours in the clinic? |
| 20:31:45 |
Carol45 |
What type of a 'sauna' should I look for in my area? There are a lot of beauty shops with tanning beds. |
| 20:32:07 |
Bob R |
Lisa, where in the Austin area do you live, also, do you know of any colon theripists in the Georgetown area? |
| 20:32:31 |
Kristina |
3 hours, with a one hour massage. You can take a longer massage, if you wish. |
| 20:32:43 |
Kristina |
Look for a Far Infra Red Sauna. |
| 20:33:02 |
Dave |
You mean many massages or enemas to your wife, Tom? |
| 20:33:16 |
TomIA |
Massages for the wife |
| 20:33:49 |
TomIA |
90minutes for enema session plus 90 more for sauna and massage? |
| 20:34:19 |
Kristina |
Yes. |
| 20:34:33 |
Lisa |
Bob, I don't go to a colon theripist anymore in Texas since we need an RX from a doctor to have one! Texas is the only state to do that! |
| 20:35:43 |
Carol45 |
Lisa, I'll bet the ones over the state line are busy! |
| 20:35:58 |
Lisa |
In Georgetown, look up on the I-act website to safely find one. |
| 20:36:21 |
Lisa |
Sure you're right Carol!! |
| 20:36:47 |
Hogman |
Kristina....how long should an enema series take ? |
| 20:37:24 |
Carol45 |
Hogman, as long as you like - don't rush them. |
| 20:37:25 |
Kristina |
Most enema series will take a minimum of 30 minutes, but we will take 60-90 minutes with people. |
| 20:37:37 |
Bob R |
Thanks Lisa. I have, not recently, but nothing on the north side of Austin. |
| 20:38:18 |
Lisa |
You're right Bob, they all seem to be south! |
| 20:38:25 |
michael b |
question, per your book, page 145, combining flax tea with coffee, are both equally absorbed? seems like to me the best of all. |
| 20:39:09 |
Kristina |
The time a series of enemas takes depends on how quickly you take the water into the colon, how much water you take in each enema in the series and how long it takes you to empty the colon in between enemas. Some people need to take a long time on the toilet, emptying the contents of their colon. |
| 20:39:40 |
ealincoln |
Kristina, do you recommend taking enemas for my situation? If so, how many? |
| 20:39:48 |
Dave |
My series at OHN hav taken an hour or so, but it depends on fill and hold time, including the coffee implant. |
| 20:40:19 |
Kristina |
Hi Michael. |
| 20:40:27 |
Lisa |
Bob, Charlotte Lyne is the very best in Austin, but she is south. Worth the extra drive! |
| 20:40:43 |
Kristina |
I can't say how equally absorbed the flax seed tea is. Sorry, but I do know it is soothing. |
| 20:43:11 |
TomIA |
Is the colon tube more effective for cleaning deep than the retention nozzle for at home use |
| 20:44:05 |
Lisa |
Bob, maybe it's Layne. Can't think of the spelling now, but it's something like that. She's on Barton Springs Road. |
| 20:44:33 |
Kristina |
Yes, the colon tube is excellent to use in the second and/or third enema in the series as the lower colon will be cleared out so that you can insert the colon tube deeper into the colon for a more effective colon cleanse. |
| 20:44:41 |
Hogman |
I keep getting knocked off here..............sorry |
| 20:44:53 |
Carol45 |
I think the tube versus retention nozzle is a personal choice. I use the tube with good results, but have never tried the nozzle. |
| 20:45:01 |
Kristina |
It is useful to have a retention nozzle on hand to use in the first and possibly second enema in the series. |
| 20:45:10 |
Kristina |
That is fine, Hogman. |
| 20:46:03 |
Dave |
The retention nozzle is easier to use solo than the colon tube, in my opinion. |
| 20:46:41 |
TomIA |
Is plain filtered or RO good for deep cleaning |
| 20:46:52 |
TomIA |
will check out the message board |
| 20:46:55 |
Dave |
We could use all the posters we can. |
| 20:46:57 |
Carol45 |
Yes, we'd like to see all of you on the board. |
| 20:47:07 |
misulda |
Kristina, will you record more DVDs? That one you made is very interesting and very educational. |
| 20:47:22 |
Kristina |
We are just in the process of launching our new site so I could use the extra minutes to do some more work. If anyone has any more questions or concerns, let me know now, otherwise, I will close down the chat until next month. I sure do enjoy this time each month. |
| 20:47:33 |
Kristina |
I will likely make more movies. |
| 20:47:46 |
Kristina |
RO water is excellent. |
| 20:47:50 |
ealincoln |
Just wondered if I should be doing regular enemas along with everything else |
| 20:47:59 |
Mike K |
Kris does a coffee enema lose its effectiveness if held for longer than 12 or 15 minutes? |
| 20:48:03 |
Kristina |
Go to www.enemabag.com for a further discussion on water use in the enema. |
| 20:48:03 |
Dave |
Any ETA for the site. And next chat date? |
| 20:48:10 |
TomIA |
Thanks for the info and will be in contact by phone |
| 20:48:30 |
Kristina |
Elizabeth, if you aren't moving your bowels daily then taking enemas can be an excellent choice. |
| 20:48:50 |
ealincoln |
How often? |
| 20:48:53 |
Lisa |
Hope to see ALL of you on the message board!! |
| 20:49:14 |
Dave |
Best at Kris's Tom. |
| 20:49:17 |
Kristina |
I think it is fine to hold a coffee enema longer than 12-15 minutes. I don't know if anyone knows exactly what happens in the body minute to minute. It would be good to know, but... |
| 20:49:24 |
Carol45 |
ealincoln, do you have Kristinas book? |
| 20:49:28 |
ealincoln |
yes |
| 20:49:32 |
ealincoln |
that's how I got started with her |
| 20:49:37 |
ealincoln |
I'm in Pennsylvania |
| 20:49:47 |
Kristina |
One to seven times a week. |
| 20:49:57 |
ealincoln |
Got it. Thanks! |
| 20:50:01 |
Carol45 |
It has good recommendation on how often. |
| 20:50:10 |
ealincoln |
Thanks, Carol |
| 20:50:12 |
Carol45 |
Please join us on the board. |
| 20:50:32 |
Kristina |
Talk to you all soon. Please do email or call if you need anything else. Bye. |
| 20:50:38 |
ealincoln |
It's a time consuming process and with everything else going on.... three kids, etc. it's sometimes hard to find the time to take care of yourself |
| 20:50:42 |
Carol45 |
Kristina can we have a serun testing spot on the board? |
| 20:50:59 |
Carol45 |
Supplements, etc. |
| 20:51:08 |
Lisa |
Kristina's book is great! One of a kind. You all should have it. Very helpful! |
| 20:51:35 |
Kristina |
See you on February 13th at 7. |