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Alternative Health Live Chat with Kristina
April 9, 2008

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19:54:42	TomIA	Hi hope all is well in Madison
19:56:23	Carol45	:) Good evening everyone.
19:56:23	kristina	Hi all! Feel free to chat or begins threads. I will be back in 5 minutes.
19:56:38	TomIA	Hello
19:57:10	michael b	my fondest hopes for all for a great SPRING.
19:57:26	TomIA	Soon as it starts
19:58:27	TomIA	Still trying to get rid of the last of the snow in Iowa
19:58:43	michael b	to have a great spring, whenever it shows up.
19:59:16	Lisa	Hi Dave! How was your trip?
20:00:51	kristina	Wisconsin is not under 100 inches of snow any longer but it is still cold. The weekend was fabulous.
20:01:18	Lisa	I'm glad I live in Texas!!!
20:01:29	Carol45	Glad to hear you had some good weather in Wisc.
20:01:49	TomIA	I caught the 11 inch snow in Minnesota last week during a trip
20:02:43	TomIA	Did not last long but can't seem to get away from it
20:02:48	Carol45	Illinois has been having rain, rain, and more rain.
20:03:31	Carol45	Kristina, do you still have any goats?
20:03:49	kristina	I see that you all received the newsletter. Any thoughts about the content?
20:04:02	TomIA	Does anyone find water temperature affecting fill and retention of water?
20:04:26	kristina	No, we sold all of our goats last fall. I miss them, especially in the spring because the last 3 years we had the joy of caring for the baby goats.
20:04:52	Lisa	The baby goats were adorable!
20:04:53	kristina	I find the warmer the enema water is, the better. What about you Tom?
20:04:57	Carol45	I saw the 'kids' at the farm last week end. They are so darling.
20:05:13	kristina	Are you getting raw goat's milk, Carol?
20:05:28	Carol45	Yes. still practically living on Kefir.
20:05:56	kristina	I sent the newsletter, with the forum reminder, to 5444 people. I thought we might be swarming with people.
20:06:25	TomIA	I have been trying to use 100-104 degree water it seems to work better, read where you cool off through the series but cooler seems to be harder to get a good fill and retain a bit less.
20:06:27	kristina	I drink about 1/2 gallon of raw milk daily. It is a very convenient and healthy food to live on.
20:06:38	michael b	lisa, from the last chat ,i was impressed that you knew the name of conductor of the san francisco symphony.
20:06:48	Dave	Problems logging in here. Missed last couple months. so outa practice, but HI all.
20:06:50	Carol45	The time should be good for most people, maybe early on the west coast.
20:06:56	kristina	Hi Dave. Welcome.
20:07:24	Lisa	Michael, that's because I'm a professional classical musician!
20:07:40	TomIA	Is the 32FR 70D colon tube available in longer lengths?
20:08:08	kristina	What else are you eating these days, Carol, besides the Kefir? How long does the kefir last? How often do you have to drive to the farm.
20:08:57	Dave	Looking forward to ILL-WIS trip next week. Keep weather decent please.
20:09:25	kristina	Unfortunately, it is not.
20:09:36	kristina	Have you tried the 42 FR Silicone Colon Tubes with Delrin Cap?
20:09:51	Lisa	I'm fighting a bad cold now, and I have to get ready to play in a recital April 20th! What a bummer!
20:09:56	TomIA	I was in Kansas till today and head for Ft Lauderdale for work tomorrow may see the sun a bit more I HOPE! Should get something for the effort
20:10:22	kristina	Lisa, have you tried taking a few coffee enemas and not eating any dairy or sugar?
20:10:45	TomIA	I have the shorter 42FR but have not had much luck with it yet. Using the 30" 32FR for now
20:11:01	Carol45	Beef, chicken and eggs, and pork from the farm. Organic veggies from the co-op. Make Kefir daily and drink 8-10 ounces in AM and with lunch. Sometimes in evening.
20:11:04	Lisa	I ran out of enema coffee! My diet has improved a lot.
20:11:22	Dave	Lisa, don't forget your bags!
20:11:34	Lisa	True Dave!!
20:11:39	kristina	Maybe you can get some enema coffee with the upcoming sale. Well done on the dietary changes.
20:12:02	kristina	Sounds like you are doing well, Carol. How are you feeling these days? How is the stress level?
20:12:26	Lisa	My cold could be gone by the time it gets here. But that would be a good problem to have! LOL!
20:12:33	Carol45	I definitely need to get back into my 'coffee' routine.
20:12:37	kristina	Tom, why do you desire a longer colon tube?
20:12:49	TomIA	What insertion length should you use on colon tube for coffee enema?
20:12:50	Dave	I could use fresh coffee resupply too, maybe on trip.
20:13:13	Dave	Good question Tom.
20:13:14	kristina	There are different thoughts on how far to insert the colon tube for the coffee enema.
20:13:30	Lisa	I'll still order the coffee when it's on sale.
20:13:42	Carol45	Knock on wood, I have avoided the office colds. Really think the probiotics and kefir have helped keeped them at bay.
20:13:44	Dave	Hint!!
20:13:52	kristina	I believe that it is important to first clear out the colon, then to implant the coffee with a tube that is inserted about 12-18 inches into the colon.
20:14:20	TomIA	I was looking at the 48" in the Delrin cap if I get better use with the shorter one. Do not think I am getting enough water in deep enough for a good cleanse.
20:14:26	kristina	Once my new website is launched, you will be able to read a new detailed description of how to take a coffee enema.
20:14:28	Lisa	I haven't had a cold all winter. Now it's a spring cold.
20:14:31	Dave	How about us afraid of more than 6, kris?b
20:16:14	kristina	Here is an excerpt:
20:16:15	TomIA	After Dee Dee's help I am getting better with the 32FR at first foldback was a major issue. Getting better with each try
20:16:16	kristina	lie down on your left side, pull your knees up, and gently insert the nozzled enema hose or colon tube 4 to 6 inches into your colon, being very careful not to injure the colon wall or tissues. If you are using a detachable nozzle, do not insert it beyond the end of its stem. Whenever you feel any resistance, stop, pull back slightly, reposition the tube a little (change the angle), and continue. Sometimes allowing a little coffee to flow in will help with the tube insertion. If you can only comfortably get the tube in a couple of inches, leave it at that. Never force anything. Special attachable nozzles with rounded, bulb-like ends on a four-inch stem pretty much dictate a safe insertion. A wider (#32 or so) silicone colon tube is also very safe.
20:16:55	kristina	Yes, colon tubes do take practice.
20:17:47	Carol45	I finally got my 'pump'. And naturally just love it. :D
20:18:12	kristina	As far as fully cleansing the entire colon, I find that it is using the multiple enemas or the enemas series that is key, along with taking in the 2-4 quarts of water.
20:19:03	Carol45	How is the new website coming?
20:19:08	kristina	Carol, do you mean a smooth flow syringe and hose system with the in-line pump?
20:19:18	Carol45	That's the one.
20:19:47	Lisa	Guess what! In November, I'm going to Milan Italy,Venice and Switzerland! I bet you know what kind of a bag I'll be taking! LOL!
20:19:51	TomIA	After using the colon tube and 3 round enema series I find that I have a movement in as short as 2 hours and up to 8 hours. After a hydro at OHN I normally go 24 or so hours before a BM. Don't know if I do as well with enemas or at least not yet
20:20:22	kristina	Yes, the in-line pump is another tool to move the enema solution deeper into the colon. How much water do you take, Tom? And, how many enemas do you take in a row?
20:20:27	TomIA	The flowmaster unit is the only way to go.
20:20:52	Lisa	I agree Tom! The flowmaster is great!
20:21:08	kristina	Hmm, that is interesting. Let me think about that a bit.
20:21:18	Carol45	Lisa, will you be performing on your trip?
20:21:36	kristina	Flowmaster Cleansing Programs
20:21:39	Dave	Thanx Kris. Think 6 inches and 2 quarts the most we have had from earliest days as kids and afraid to go further.
20:22:05	kristina	There is often no need to go further with the nozzle.
20:22:15	kristina	Tom, how often do you take enemas?
20:22:17	TomIA	I normally take 3 or 4 in a single night series, 1st one is small cleanout then 2 or 3 more. I have taken 3 qts but sometimes 2 is all I manage so will do the 4th round.
20:22:25	Lisa	I'm meeting a singer there, so I have a good connection. So far nothing is planned for a performance.
20:23:07	michael b	Kristrina, i have wondered, is the coffee solution good for all parts of the colon?
20:23:21	kristina	I am very blessed as I have actually had Lisa perform in my own house.
20:23:38	kristina	Yes, however,
20:23:49	Lisa	I loved performing for you and your family!
20:24:03	TomIA	Has anyone used organic green tea as an implant?
20:24:43	kristina	here is another excerpt:
20:24:43	Lisa	I have used green tea in an enema and it's very soothing. I loved it!
20:24:45	Dave	Another good question Tom.
20:24:46	kristina	There seem to be as many different claims for how to properly administer a coffee enema as there are petals on a daisy — or alternative healthcare practitioners' titles. The subject of which way is the "right" way arouses strong opinions — I've even read of coffee enema advocates at a health conference almost coming to blows over whether the enema is to be taken while lying on the right side or the left side.
20:25:23	kristina	I have not used green tea. What do you know about its therapeutic benefits as an enema implant?
20:26:01	TomIA	What I have read so far speaks about antioxidants primarily
20:26:22	kristina	The one detail that is consistent among health practitioners is that you need to hold the coffee for 12 minutes.
20:26:58	TomIA	I think you had a short paragraph in your 10 days book, found most info online sites
20:27:14	Carol45	Kristina, what is Cranial Sacral Therapy? Is it anything like going to a chiropractor?
20:27:25	Dave	Just to add to coffee positions: legs-up as good for retention?
20:27:38	TomIA	I have read some comments about flushing out after the coffee enema what do you think
20:28:26	Lisa	Calol45, I've been wondering about that too.
20:28:43	kristina	I do go into detail how to take a coffee enema and the physiology of the coffee enema in my movie, Cleansing, Coffee Enemas and Colon Tubes.
20:28:57	Lisa	Carol45. My typo!
20:29:32	Carol45	The movie is great, very well worth it.
20:29:46	TomIA	I have the DVD it is good
20:30:06	kristina	No, cranial sacral therapy is not like going to a chiropractor.
20:30:12	Dave	Have it too.
20:30:33	kristina	It is a hands-on therapy. There is no manipulation.
20:30:49	kristina	I have had a handful of sessions and always enjoyed it immensely.
20:32:16	TomIA	Does anyone have trouble retaining olive oil implants?
20:32:49	Lisa	I never had a problem, but it was such a small amount.
20:32:50	kristina	I had one in March with a woman who felt that my lower colon had literally not been receiving enough of a blood supply for years, the part of my body that I have had recurring issues with. I have been extremely healthy since then, 3 1/2 weeks ago. Each therapist will be different.
20:33:00	kristina	More on coffee enemas:
20:33:05	kristina	The coffee enema is capable of removing circulating toxins and partial metabolites for one specific reason, and that is that the coffee enema not only dilates bile ducts - which Gerson knew - we now know, from the work of Wattenberg, Sparnins, and Lam at the University of Minnesota, Department of Pathology, Minneapolis, that coffee stimulates an enzyme system in the liver, glutathione-S-transferase, that is capable of removing a vast variety of electrophiles from the bloodstream.
20:33:47	michael b	carol45, lisa, i also wondered about cranial sacral therapy, but was afraid to ask.
20:33:51	kristina	The role of the coffee enema in dilating the bile ducts is why there is controversy about where the coffee needs to be delivered.
20:34:18	kristina	I have learned that it is the blood vessels in the lower colon that absorb the coffee in the enema solution and thus dilate the bile ducts.
20:34:35	TomIA	My first try with olive oil was @1 cup but it did not last long on the retention scale
20:34:48	Carol45	There is a difference in chiropractors too, depending on which school they have gone too. Given a choice, I like the "Palmer Method" - it seems more gentle.
20:34:54	Lisa	Why be afraid to ask? Kristina will answer anything, right Kris?
20:35:14	kristina	The author of the coffee enema article on my new sites recommends that you take a second enema series later in the day to release the resulting toxins from the earlier coffee enema.
20:35:17	Dave	Is the cranial mostly physical or mental in effect? We know enemas can be both.
20:35:36	kristina	I recommend Cranial Sacral Therapy.
20:35:52	Carol45	The increase in blood supply to a region makes a big difference.
20:36:03	TomIA	Some of the articles on doing a flush enema after the coffee is based on removing any toxins that are transfered into the colon, not sure if this is accurate
20:36:07	Lisa	Would love to learn more about it.
20:36:34	kristina	yes, i will.
20:36:52	kristina	It is both mental and physical, Dave.
20:37:04	kristina	My page just cleared out. If I missed any question, let me know.
20:37:13	TomIA	So you would agree with the flushing series later in the day after coffee series
20:37:21	kristina	Right, Tom. I think it makes sense.
20:37:51	TomIA	You think you should wait a few hours though rather than shorter time?
20:38:14	Carol45	Kristina, I know we are all looking forward to your new site. Any idea when we might see it?
20:38:43	ltrail	Hello, My name is Dale
20:38:52	kristina	Welcome, Dale
20:38:57	ltrail	Thanks
20:39:04	Lisa	Hi Dale! Nice to have you here!
20:39:13	ltrail	Thanks
20:39:20	TomIA	What I have seen speaks of doing shortly after the coffee implant is done.
20:39:27	Carol45	Glad you join us.
20:39:38	kristina	Yes, I would, Tom. I also also thinking that given what you said about your own enemas, you might benefit from taking a second series anyways.
20:39:42	Dave	Kris, since effects same as an enema, good.
20:39:51	ltrail	Thanks Carol45 and all
20:41:36	kristina	I would take the second set of cleansing enemas 4-6 hours after the first.
20:42:00	kristina	Dale, do you have any questions or thoughts you would like to share?
20:43:14	ltrail	wow. do I.
20:43:56	ltrail	First of all, I'm glad that I found Optimal Health Network and its products and education.
20:44:05	kristina	Carol, our new site will be launched any day but then again, it could be a while. There are many, many technical issues that aren't foreseen until you are tackling them. She is a beauty, though. I can't wait for you all to see it.
20:44:09	Lisa	We have another 15 minutes, so there is still time to ask!
20:44:13	michael b	i try to read all you print, if i am right, you suggest eating a binding agent 30 min. before the second coffee enema, like china chlorella,or cilantro.
20:44:15	Dave	Just to cover old ground: are many here as clogged in travel as me even brief trips? Taking this personal, lol.
20:44:30	kristina	Thanks, Dale. Welcome again!
20:45:02	kristina	Yes, I do, Michael. Thanks for chiming in about that.
20:45:34	kristina	Chlorella
20:45:36	ltrail	I wished that I took my Cadillac (silicone bag, hose, and tube) with me on a business trip but didn't. I eventually needed help from local agencies. So next time, I surely will
20:45:54	kristina	What happened?
20:46:53	Carol45	Dave, there are just some things that I do much better at home! Even a short trip away from home 'clogs' me up.
20:46:53	ltrail	My business trip caused unexpected problems in my regular routine
20:47:15	kristina	silicone bag
20:47:27	ltrail	So I called upon locals in Texas (Houston) for help
20:47:39	kristina	The hospital or a colon hydrotherapist?
20:48:10	ltrail	I obtained a referral from my own DR and had it faxed to an agency in Houston.
20:48:22	ltrail	they helped in Texas style
20:48:50	ltrail	nurse health care
20:49:21	ltrail	Otherwise, my next day with clients would have been not so nice
20:49:31	Lisa	That's good, since you need an RX in Texas to go to a colon hydrotherapist.
20:49:41	ltrail	yes, Lisa
20:50:01	Dave	Yes, Carol, hotels/motels sure not enema friendly solo. Better clean out before and after.
20:50:03	Lisa	I live in Texas, so I know.
20:50:18	ltrail	Hello Lisa. you know
20:50:25	Carol45	The only good thing I can see about an RX is that you can include it in medical expenses on the taxes.
20:50:47	ltrail	Thank you, Carol45
20:50:52	michael b	Kristina, you are most welcome, I am just glad to know I am understanding this correctly.
20:51:04	kristina	Here is a story that might assist you, Tom:
20:51:08	Lisa	I never thought of that Carol45!
20:51:29	kristina	The recently released larger and longer silicone colon tube has been a great benefit in my routine. As you know I routinely flush with four quarts of water at a temperature that just starts to sting my wrist. Then I follow up by completely inserting the new silicone colon tube. The frankincense and myrrh goat milk soap is dissolved in a pint jar and introduced in the supply container to reach the colon nearest the appendix. ( I know this from a colonoscopy exam, the technician pointed out on the monitor)
20:51:38	kristina	the soap solution then works its way down stream and soothes the entire colon. I should mention here that I coat the nozzle I use with Super Salve. The nozzle is large enough to be retained in the rectum with a hole in the nozzle to permit the large colon tube to be introduced and let it work it''s way all the way in the colon. I then flush the entire colon with filtered water and that has many benefits. Most importantly, I can sleep better than at any other time. I see this procedure as a cleansing as well as a totally relaxing experience. The warmer than normal water temperature as I see it, causes blood to circulate through the entire blood stream keeping the vessels open and flowing smoothly. My pulse rate is a surprise to medical personnel for my age.
20:52:29	kristina	frankincense and myrrh soap
20:54:16	kristina	Next Live Chat May 14th, 7pm
20:54:50	Dave	Be there!
20:54:55	Carol45	Super Salve is great.
20:55:16	kristina	Super salve was a blessing to find.
20:55:27	Lisa	Gee, May 14th is a sad day for me because that is when my father died! It will be nice to look forward to this chat on that day
20:55:53	kristina	Of course, it wasn't made for taking enemas but I am continually amazed at its therapeutic qualities.
20:56:34	kristina	I am glad, Lisa.
20:56:47	Carol45	The time has flown by. Great chatting with all of you. Look forward to 'seeing' all of you next time. It will be a couple of days before my birthday - only 2 more years to Medicare!!!
20:57:05	kristina	Happy, Happy, Happy Birthday, Carol.
20:57:09	Lisa	It happened a long time ago but it's still hard. Nice to have you all as friends.
20:57:29	kristina	Thanks for letting us know. Here we go everyone, a song for Carol...Happy Birthday to you....
20:57:40	kristina	Happy Birthday to you...
20:57:47	kristina	Happy Birthday dear Carol...
20:57:54	kristina	Happy Birthday to YOU!!!
20:57:59	Lisa	HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU CAROL!!
20:58:03	ltrail	I intend on purchasing the FR 40 Silicone tube now that I understand that the tip is hard to remove. Carol45 Only two more years for me until retirement. but happy birthday to you
20:58:08	Dave	I am Medicare, but no free enemas or colonics, sadly, LOL.
20:58:33	Lisa	That's too bad Dave!
20:58:37	Carol45	Thank you all! I'm blushing.
20:59:21	kristina	Hi Sawdis, we are just finishing. Do you have any quick questions or comments? We are on Central Standard Time.
20:59:35	michael b	will we still still love you when you're 64 - of course we will carol.
20:59:41	Lisa	Sawdis, you came in too late! Hope you can join us next month!
20:59:41	Sawdis	rats i got the times mixed up
20:59:49	Dave	Just think an hour earlier.
21:00:14	kristina	If you have something quick, I have a few more minutes. We will post the chat archives on the new site at some point.
21:00:23	Sawdis	what happened to the vital living center cookbook?
21:00:29	Lisa	Great song, huh Michael!?
21:00:57	kristina	We ran out. The author died and it didn't continue. If you email me, I might be able to hook you up with a copy or a single recipe.
21:01:07	michael b	one of the best.
21:01:10	Lisa	When I'm 64, great Beatles song!
21:01:11	Carol45	michael b, I had almost forgotten that song - thanks for the memory.
21:01:37	Sawdis	ok because there is a lack of recipies in the 10 days book I find
21:01:50	kristina	There are many excellent recipes in the Nourishing Traditions Cookbook
21:02:11	Sawdis	ok I'm planning to buy nourishing trad. book
21:02:13	Lisa	That is a great book. I have it.
21:02:19	kristina	My book has numerous recipes from the Vital Living Center Cookbook
21:02:32	Sawdis	yes I have the book
21:02:39	Sawdis	but I did not see too many recipies
21:03:00	TomIA	I will talk to Dee Dee on my next appoiintment on the colon tubes
21:03:14	Carol45	I love the cookbook too - just don't have enough people to cook for! lol
21:03:31	kristina	Email me if you are looking for a specific recipe. I had recipes in my old CD version of my book but now that you mention it I think we took many of those out based on some editorial guidance. I still don't like the idea.
21:03:40	Lisa	Dave is going to DeeDee soon, right Dave?
21:04:03	Sawdis	I was shocked at eating uncooked food, whever you said raw I kept thinking you meant organic (in the electronic book)
21:04:35	Sawdis	the best meat I can find is grade AA, no pesticide, no hormones and grain fed
21:04:35	kristina	Okay, I am going to shut the chat down now. Thank you very much, every one for joining me tonight. No, I meant raw. I eat most of my food raw. I also mean organic, and raw.
21:04:42	Carol45	If I didn't personally
21:04:45	kristina	Where do you live?
21:04:48	Carol45	know
21:04:52	Sawdis	montreal
21:04:56	TomIA	I am going to keep reading up on the green tea enemas
21:05:11	kristina	Tom, report to us on green tea enemas next month, okay?
21:05:14	Lisa	Oh Canada! Love it there!!
21:05:20	TomIA	I will do that
21:05:21	Sawdis	hi Lisa
21:05:26	kristina	Bye folks
21:05:32	Sawdis	bye Kristina
21:05:33	Carol45	If I didn't personally know my 'beef', and where it was grown, I would be afraid to eat it raw.
21:05:35	Sawdis	thanks
21:05:42	Dave	A sister gave me "When I'm 64" in a birthday CD. All Beatles still alive now 64 now better! Bye.
21:05:43	TomIA	thanks for the info Bye
21:05:45	Carol45	Goodnight everyone.
21:05:47	Lisa	Nice chat tonight. Enjoyed it!
21:06:59	Lisa	Goodnight everyone!
21:07:21	michael b	everybody stay healthy,i hope to talk to all in may.
21:07:56	kristina	dd

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